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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ed Zak, post: 24036, member: 824&quot;]Then you see terms like B.U. + or Gem B.U. ++ and you are basically talking about plus or minus points on the Sheldon Scale.</p><p><br /></p><p>All this very subjective and sometimes one person thinks it is MS65 while the next believes it is MS63.&nbsp; As for raw items on Ebay, if I bid, I ALWAYS deduct at least 2 to 3 points from the desciption for MS advertised coins and 5 to 10 point for circulated coins.&nbsp; That way, if the ad is true, I am pleasantly surprised and if not, I bought a coin that I always thought was VF30 instead of EF40.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Ahhhh...the arguments on grading and the dollars gained or lost between MS63, 64, and 65 &quot;opinions&quot;.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>We will be discussing it for all of my years and those to come![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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