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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GinoLR, post: 20361642, member: 128351&quot;]<b>KAI CY</b></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1540580[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The Greek formula καὶ σύ (you too) was a standard formula, probably of Stoician inspiration, used on gravestones. It was addressed to the passer-by who was reading the epitaph, and meant : you too shall be dead some day. The full formula is &quot;χαῖρε καὶ σύ, τίς ποτ’ εἶ &quot; : &quot;Farewell you too, whoever you are&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>On this epitaph from Carnuntum (Petronell, Austria) of Florus, slave of Publius Vedius Germanus, who died at the age of 26, the end in Greek is:</p><p><br /></p><p>(...) XAIPЄ / [ΦΛ]ѠPЄ · XAIPЄ KAI CY / TIC ΠOT ЄI ΞЄNЄ </p><p><br /></p><p>(...) χαῖρε Φλῶρε, χαῖρε καὶ σύ, τίς ποτ’ εἶ, ξένε ! : &quot;Farewell Florus! Farewell you too, whoever you are, stranger !&quot; </p><p><br /></p><p>There are even minimalist gravestones with just &quot;καὶ σύ&quot;... </p><p><br /></p><p>Julius Caesar was suspected of restoring monarchy in Rome. When Brutus killed his father, he was fulfilling the oath of his supposed ancestor Lucius Brutus. In 509 BC, after Lucretia had committed suicide, Livy tells the story: &quot;<i>Brutus, while the others were absorbed in grief, drew out the knife from Lucretia&#039;s wound, and holding it up, dripping with gore, exclaimed, “By this blood, most chaste until a prince wronged it, I swear, and I take you, gods, to witness, that I will pursue Lucius Tarquinius Superbus and his wicked wife and all his children, with sword, with fire, aye with whatsoever violence I may; and that I will suffer neither them nor any other to be king in Rome!” The knife he then passed to Collatinus, and from him to Lucretius and Valerius</i>.&quot; Of course Caesar was his own (adoptive) father, but it was well known that his ancestor Brutus, some time after, had his two sons executed before his very eyes because they were plotting the restoration of monarchy. <i>Mos majorum</i>, you see... </p><p><br /></p><p>But Caesar was a stoician. He just replied the stoician formula : &quot;καὶ σύ&quot;... You too, my son, shall be killed some day, I&#039;m waiting for you...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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