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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3428764, member: 75937"]Nice coin! AVGG probably does refer to Aurelian and Severina.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coins of Herennia Etruscilla are interesting because in some instances, the same reverse type was issued with AVG in the inscription and in other instances, with AVGG in the inscription.</p><p><br /></p><p>AVG:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]910433[/ATTACH]</p><p>Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-251.</p><p>Roman AR antoninianus, 4.16 g, 22 mm, 7 h.</p><p>Rome, AD 250-251.</p><p>Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right, on crescent.</p><p>Rev: FECVNDITAS AVG, Fecunditas standing left, extending right hand to child standing right on left, and holding cornucopia in left hand.</p><p>Refs: RIC 55b, Cohen/RSC 8; RCV 9492; CRE 541.</p><p><br /></p><p>AVGG:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]910438[/ATTACH]</p><p>Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-251.</p><p>Roman AR antoninianus, 3.6 g, 22 mm, 8 h.</p><p>Rome, AD 250-251.</p><p>Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right, on crescent.</p><p>Rev: FECVNDITAS AVG, Fecunditas standing left, extending right hand to child standing right on left, and holding cornucopia in left hand.</p><p>Refs: RIC 56, Cohen/RSC 11; RCV 9492; CRE 542.</p><p><br /></p><p>The same situation also occurs in copper alloy:</p><p><br /></p><p>AVG:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]910439[/ATTACH]</p><p>Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-251.</p><p>Roman orichalcum sestertius, 14.04 gm, 28.3 mm.</p><p>Rome, AD 250-251.</p><p>Obv: HERENNIA ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right.</p><p>Rev: FECVNDITAS AVG SC, Fecunditas standing left, right hand extended to child standing at her feet; holding cornucopiae.</p><p>Refs: RIC 134a; Sear 9504; Cohen 9; Hunter 12.</p><p><br /></p><p>AVGG:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/etruscilla-fecvnditas-avgg-as-jpg.881011/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-253.</p><p>Roman Æ as, 8.47 g, 23.4 mm, 1 h.</p><p>Rome mint, 6th officina, AD 251.</p><p>Obv: HERENNIA ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right.</p><p>Rev: FECVNDITAS AVGG S C, Fecunditas standing left, her right hand extended to child standing at her feet, holding cornucopiae in left.</p><p>Refs: RIC 135b; Cohen 13; RCV 9507; Hunter 13; ERIC II 53.</p><p><br /></p><p>The existence of these coins with AVGG in the inscription is thought-provoking because during her tenure as empress, Herennia Etruscilla was the sole woman on the throne. AVGG is plural. To whom does the "fecundity of the august ones" refer? The empress and her husband? The empress and some daughter-in-law? The problem is that apart from numismatic evidence, we wouldn't even know Herennia Etruscilla was the wife of Trajan Decius! We know next to nothing about her.</p><p><br /></p><p>Banduri writes about this very issue in his 1718 tome, <i>Numismata imperatorum Romanorum a Trajano Decio ad Palaeologos augustos</i>. This admittedly does not reflect the most modern scholarship on these coins. The middle bronzes with both the AVG and AVGG legends are listed:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/etruscilla-fecvnditas-avgg-as-banduri-listing-jpg.893071/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Note there is a footnote in the listing with the AVGG legend. It reads:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/etruscilla-fecvnditas-avgg-as-banduri-footnote-jpg.893072/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is translated as "This coin does not praise the fecundity of the empress but that of the emperor and the empress* ..." The remainder of the footnote mentions the existence of similar issues of the Empress in silver and notes their rarity.</p><p><br /></p><p>Banduri believed AVGG refers to Decius and his wife.</p><p><br /></p><p>*Augustorum is genitive plural; literally "of the august ones," and would have to refer to the imperial couple.</p><p><br /></p><p>The AEQVITAS reverse type also occurs with both AVG and AVGG in the inscription. I only have the AVGG version:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]910445[/ATTACH]</p><p>Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-253.</p><p>Roman AR Antoninianus, 4.10 g, 23.3 mm, 5 h.</p><p>Antioch, AD 250-251.</p><p>Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust right on crescent, hair smooth and with a long plait carried up the back of the head.</p><p>Rev: AEQVITAS AVGG, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae</p><p>Refs: RIC 64; RSC 3d; RCV 9491; CRE 540; Hunter p. xcix.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3428764, member: 75937"]Nice coin! AVGG probably does refer to Aurelian and Severina. The coins of Herennia Etruscilla are interesting because in some instances, the same reverse type was issued with AVG in the inscription and in other instances, with AVGG in the inscription. AVG: [ATTACH=full]910433[/ATTACH] Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-251. Roman AR antoninianus, 4.16 g, 22 mm, 7 h. Rome, AD 250-251. Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right, on crescent. Rev: FECVNDITAS AVG, Fecunditas standing left, extending right hand to child standing right on left, and holding cornucopia in left hand. Refs: RIC 55b, Cohen/RSC 8; RCV 9492; CRE 541. AVGG: [ATTACH=full]910438[/ATTACH] Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-251. Roman AR antoninianus, 3.6 g, 22 mm, 8 h. Rome, AD 250-251. Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right, on crescent. Rev: FECVNDITAS AVG, Fecunditas standing left, extending right hand to child standing right on left, and holding cornucopia in left hand. Refs: RIC 56, Cohen/RSC 11; RCV 9492; CRE 542. The same situation also occurs in copper alloy: AVG: [ATTACH=full]910439[/ATTACH] Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-251. Roman orichalcum sestertius, 14.04 gm, 28.3 mm. Rome, AD 250-251. Obv: HERENNIA ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right. Rev: FECVNDITAS AVG SC, Fecunditas standing left, right hand extended to child standing at her feet; holding cornucopiae. Refs: RIC 134a; Sear 9504; Cohen 9; Hunter 12. AVGG: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/etruscilla-fecvnditas-avgg-as-jpg.881011/[/IMG] Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-253. Roman Æ as, 8.47 g, 23.4 mm, 1 h. Rome mint, 6th officina, AD 251. Obv: HERENNIA ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust, right. Rev: FECVNDITAS AVGG S C, Fecunditas standing left, her right hand extended to child standing at her feet, holding cornucopiae in left. Refs: RIC 135b; Cohen 13; RCV 9507; Hunter 13; ERIC II 53. The existence of these coins with AVGG in the inscription is thought-provoking because during her tenure as empress, Herennia Etruscilla was the sole woman on the throne. AVGG is plural. To whom does the "fecundity of the august ones" refer? The empress and her husband? The empress and some daughter-in-law? The problem is that apart from numismatic evidence, we wouldn't even know Herennia Etruscilla was the wife of Trajan Decius! We know next to nothing about her. Banduri writes about this very issue in his 1718 tome, [I]Numismata imperatorum Romanorum a Trajano Decio ad Palaeologos augustos[/I]. This admittedly does not reflect the most modern scholarship on these coins. The middle bronzes with both the AVG and AVGG legends are listed: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/etruscilla-fecvnditas-avgg-as-banduri-listing-jpg.893071/[/IMG] Note there is a footnote in the listing with the AVGG legend. It reads: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/etruscilla-fecvnditas-avgg-as-banduri-footnote-jpg.893072/[/IMG] This is translated as "This coin does not praise the fecundity of the empress but that of the emperor and the empress* ..." The remainder of the footnote mentions the existence of similar issues of the Empress in silver and notes their rarity. Banduri believed AVGG refers to Decius and his wife. *Augustorum is genitive plural; literally "of the august ones," and would have to refer to the imperial couple. The AEQVITAS reverse type also occurs with both AVG and AVGG in the inscription. I only have the AVGG version: [ATTACH=full]910445[/ATTACH] Herennia Etruscilla, AD 249-253. Roman AR Antoninianus, 4.10 g, 23.3 mm, 5 h. Antioch, AD 250-251. Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed and draped bust right on crescent, hair smooth and with a long plait carried up the back of the head. Rev: AEQVITAS AVGG, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae Refs: RIC 64; RSC 3d; RCV 9491; CRE 540; Hunter p. xcix.[/QUOTE]
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