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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3207586, member: 93416"]Maybe this is just a personal niggle, but IMHO it would probably be more accurate to say:</p><p><br /></p><p>"It is clear chemicals were used to remove the patina/clean <u>revealing</u> surface etching"</p><p><br /></p><p>(Unless of course the item is some kind of clever pressure cast - I have no comment on that)</p><p><br /></p><p>More generally:</p><p><br /></p><p>At a practical level - very pure silver pieces can become very fragile if buried in a saline environment - due to what certainly appears to be internal crystallisation. This can often be reversed by moderate heat - a bread oven - for a period of hours. Don't ask me how it works, I do not know. Others have told me this cannot be true, but they are wrong, as I did it, quite a lot.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding copper alloys. Crystallisation does not seem to me to cause fragility in copper alloy coins, so I never tried to anneal them. Those experienced in conservation work tell me - if removing bends from damaged copper alloy items – the copper alloy must first be heated to a very high (cherry red) temperature.</p><p><br /></p><p>I assume that is to anneal it? But what do I know? Only this - that is what practical people said they found worked.</p><p><br /></p><p>The enlightenment happened when people put aside theories to trust what they saw for themselves. Often enough I fear, due to modern education, we increasingly forgot that fact.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3207586, member: 93416"]Maybe this is just a personal niggle, but IMHO it would probably be more accurate to say: "It is clear chemicals were used to remove the patina/clean [U]revealing[/U] surface etching" (Unless of course the item is some kind of clever pressure cast - I have no comment on that) More generally: At a practical level - very pure silver pieces can become very fragile if buried in a saline environment - due to what certainly appears to be internal crystallisation. This can often be reversed by moderate heat - a bread oven - for a period of hours. Don't ask me how it works, I do not know. Others have told me this cannot be true, but they are wrong, as I did it, quite a lot. Regarding copper alloys. Crystallisation does not seem to me to cause fragility in copper alloy coins, so I never tried to anneal them. Those experienced in conservation work tell me - if removing bends from damaged copper alloy items – the copper alloy must first be heated to a very high (cherry red) temperature. I assume that is to anneal it? But what do I know? Only this - that is what practical people said they found worked. The enlightenment happened when people put aside theories to trust what they saw for themselves. Often enough I fear, due to modern education, we increasingly forgot that fact. Rob T[/QUOTE]
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