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<p>[QUOTE="Pavlos, post: 3206005, member: 96635"]You did doubt the authenticity by saying that in your experience the crystallization on bronze indicates that it is a cast counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>EDIT:</p><p>I found a third coin with the same surface, I guess not that extremely rare anymore.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/6osL8zW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It is clear chemicals were used to remove the patina/clean causing surface etching.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Uhm.... Do you even understand it yourself? Normally there are grain bounderies between the metals in an alloy, what they do is:</p><p><br /></p><p>“In the bulk alloy, you’d place the balls representing the components of the alloy, about 10 different elements including nickel, aluminium, chromium, tantalum and titanium, pretty randomly, and when you got to the gamma-prime precipitate you’d put in <span style="color: #ff4d4d">this ordered arrangement of aluminium at the corners and nickel in the middle. It’s all on the same regular lattice, oriented the same way, so it’s all the same crystal,</span> but you have these much stronger regions where there’s the array of gamma-prime precipitate.”</p><p><br /></p><p>They are performing no crystallization, they arrange all the crystals of those 10 elements in such a way that it becomes 1 crystal.... they are still distinct from eachother.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why do you think he says: “You can think of nickel superalloys like these as being like composites,”.</p><p><br /></p><p>A composite is nothing more then several materials constituent combined, producing a material with characteristics different from the individual components. However, <span style="color: #ff4d4d">the individual components remain separate and distinct within the finished structure.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>I have no idea what you want to proof with this because it has totally nothing to do with the CRYSTALLIZATION of an alloy.</p><p><br /></p><p>-----</p><p><br /></p><p>For the interested here, I will one time if I have time in my break measure my coin with EDS on those 'spots'.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pavlos, post: 3206005, member: 96635"]You did doubt the authenticity by saying that in your experience the crystallization on bronze indicates that it is a cast counterfeit. EDIT: I found a third coin with the same surface, I guess not that extremely rare anymore. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/6osL8zW.jpg[/IMG] It is clear chemicals were used to remove the patina/clean causing surface etching. Uhm.... Do you even understand it yourself? Normally there are grain bounderies between the metals in an alloy, what they do is: “In the bulk alloy, you’d place the balls representing the components of the alloy, about 10 different elements including nickel, aluminium, chromium, tantalum and titanium, pretty randomly, and when you got to the gamma-prime precipitate you’d put in [COLOR=#ff4d4d]this ordered arrangement of aluminium at the corners and nickel in the middle. It’s all on the same regular lattice, oriented the same way, so it’s all the same crystal,[/COLOR] but you have these much stronger regions where there’s the array of gamma-prime precipitate.” They are performing no crystallization, they arrange all the crystals of those 10 elements in such a way that it becomes 1 crystal.... they are still distinct from eachother. Why do you think he says: “You can think of nickel superalloys like these as being like composites,”. A composite is nothing more then several materials constituent combined, producing a material with characteristics different from the individual components. However, [COLOR=#ff4d4d]the individual components remain separate and distinct within the finished structure.[/COLOR] I have no idea what you want to proof with this because it has totally nothing to do with the CRYSTALLIZATION of an alloy. ----- For the interested here, I will one time if I have time in my break measure my coin with EDS on those 'spots'.[/QUOTE]
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