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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3205839, member: 24314"]Pavlos, posted: "Then sent me an scientific paper stating in the conclusion "we have successfully made a crystalline alloy". Sure there has been done tons of research about it, but that's why we have research, we either fail or succeed.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">An image of a crystalized bronze coin has been provided. What do you see in it?</span> <span style="color: #660066">So has a link to a "paper."</span></p><p><br /></p><p>Second of all I never said it is impossible, I said "An alloy pretty much never crystallizes.".</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">Please! Did you bother to read the article about crystallization in ancient silver coins?</span></p><p><br /></p><p>I said that because 1. If I would add 1% tin to copper it is an alloy but there is a possibility it can crystallize. 2. I am not up to date to the newest alloy research but the commercial and well know alloys are amorphous. I am sure someone managed to crystallize an alloy with a specific complex of metals causing a phase transition changing the crystal lattice and therefore can crystallize, or something else maybe?? As I said my research does not lay there.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have have worked before on green batteries by making a complex of metals for sodium diffusion. The moment I added a special composition it favoured a rhombohedral structure rather then a monoclinic making it very sodium conductive, that rhobohedral structure only appeared at special circumstances and was quickly gone when heating."</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks again for you posts! CT has proven to be a great place to learn new things. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>In a PM you said you were not from this country so there may be a language barrier - even between esteemed scientists such as yourself. Laymen such as myself <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> may be describing the crystallization in the bronze metal coin I posted or the CHARACTERISTIC crystal pattern found on cast counterfeits and many GENUINE silver ancients using the wrong terminology. Fortunately, laymen such as me can point to more informed scientists. So I suggest you might take this suggestion by another <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> member: <span style="color: #b300b3">"If one wishes to search google for scientific articles regarding crystallization of both alloyed metal or pure metal , they will find more than they could read in several years."</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Let me modify an old saying we have in this country:<b> </b><i><span style="color: #b30000">"You can lead a horse to water but he may not be thirsty." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></i></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3205839, member: 24314"]Pavlos, posted: "Then sent me an scientific paper stating in the conclusion "we have successfully made a crystalline alloy". Sure there has been done tons of research about it, but that's why we have research, we either fail or succeed. [COLOR=#660066]An image of a crystalized bronze coin has been provided. What do you see in it?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#660066]So has a link to a "paper."[/COLOR] Second of all I never said it is impossible, I said "An alloy pretty much never crystallizes.". [COLOR=#660066]Please! Did you bother to read the article about crystallization in ancient silver coins?[/COLOR] I said that because 1. If I would add 1% tin to copper it is an alloy but there is a possibility it can crystallize. 2. I am not up to date to the newest alloy research but the commercial and well know alloys are amorphous. I am sure someone managed to crystallize an alloy with a specific complex of metals causing a phase transition changing the crystal lattice and therefore can crystallize, or something else maybe?? As I said my research does not lay there. I have have worked before on green batteries by making a complex of metals for sodium diffusion. The moment I added a special composition it favoured a rhombohedral structure rather then a monoclinic making it very sodium conductive, that rhobohedral structure only appeared at special circumstances and was quickly gone when heating." Thanks again for you posts! CT has proven to be a great place to learn new things. :) In a PM you said you were not from this country so there may be a language barrier - even between esteemed scientists such as yourself. Laymen such as myself :bucktooth: may be describing the crystallization in the bronze metal coin I posted or the CHARACTERISTIC crystal pattern found on cast counterfeits and many GENUINE silver ancients using the wrong terminology. Fortunately, laymen such as me can point to more informed scientists. So I suggest you might take this suggestion by another :bookworm: member: [COLOR=#b300b3]"If one wishes to search google for scientific articles regarding crystallization of both alloyed metal or pure metal , they will find more than they could read in several years."[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][/B] Let me modify an old saying we have in this country:[B] [/B][I][COLOR=#b30000]"You can lead a horse to water but he may not be thirsty." :D[/COLOR][/I][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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