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<p>[QUOTE="mlubao, post: 2428088, member: 78903"]I do have a historical coin question but please bear with me. I have searched over 100+ websites and emailed many experts yet cannot find/get an answer. I am sure the answer has been staring me right in the face but my logical myopia won't let me see it. In short, I cannot make any logical sense of the British pound repeatedly referenced in 17th century literature. </p><p><br /></p><p>My confusion revolves about "pound" currency or coin extensively mentioned in 17th century literature and legal documents and how this was handled in coin (or currency). I understand Charlemagne's accounting system of 4 farthings=1 penny, 12 pence=1 shilling, 20 shillings=1 pound.</p><p><br /></p><p>As an example: in researching colonial coins I ran across a North Carolina probate will for Valentine Bird from 1680. In this will, there are references to pounds specifically "Fine Holland Sheets" valued at £7 10s and "Negro man" valued at £40.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now my question: Pound coins- from what I understand- were not minted until the 1800s. While I recognize the predominate barter system of the time and the lack of colonial specie, how did colonists or merchant pay a pound to England based traders? In what format? Paper currency? Forget even colonial payments, how did an Englishman pay royal taxes if he owed £3 2s?</p><p><br /></p><p>I cannot find a pound coin minted in or around 1680. I see James II Shillings, Crowns, Guineas, Farthings etc but no "pound" coin/currency references. All documentation I have found during the 17th century refer to tax, indenture transfer costs to the colonies and merchandise payments in pounds- yet no details. Spanish reales- frequently used by the US until mid 19th century do not match up to pound (I think).</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me odd that there are innumerable "pound" references with no actual coin associated. I don't see a merchant having to pay £7 10s for "Fine Holland Sheets" would fork over 150s in coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mlubao, post: 2428088, member: 78903"]I do have a historical coin question but please bear with me. I have searched over 100+ websites and emailed many experts yet cannot find/get an answer. I am sure the answer has been staring me right in the face but my logical myopia won't let me see it. In short, I cannot make any logical sense of the British pound repeatedly referenced in 17th century literature. My confusion revolves about "pound" currency or coin extensively mentioned in 17th century literature and legal documents and how this was handled in coin (or currency). I understand Charlemagne's accounting system of 4 farthings=1 penny, 12 pence=1 shilling, 20 shillings=1 pound. As an example: in researching colonial coins I ran across a North Carolina probate will for Valentine Bird from 1680. In this will, there are references to pounds specifically "Fine Holland Sheets" valued at £7 10s and "Negro man" valued at £40. Now my question: Pound coins- from what I understand- were not minted until the 1800s. While I recognize the predominate barter system of the time and the lack of colonial specie, how did colonists or merchant pay a pound to England based traders? In what format? Paper currency? Forget even colonial payments, how did an Englishman pay royal taxes if he owed £3 2s? I cannot find a pound coin minted in or around 1680. I see James II Shillings, Crowns, Guineas, Farthings etc but no "pound" coin/currency references. All documentation I have found during the 17th century refer to tax, indenture transfer costs to the colonies and merchandise payments in pounds- yet no details. Spanish reales- frequently used by the US until mid 19th century do not match up to pound (I think). It seems to me odd that there are innumerable "pound" references with no actual coin associated. I don't see a merchant having to pay £7 10s for "Fine Holland Sheets" would fork over 150s in coins. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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