BRIT/BRITANNIA Roman Coins

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  1. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I recently started picking up a random assortment of Roman coins with Britannia associations - mostly on a whim but also because I specialize in them in a general way. Except for the Severan coins, there is nothing exceptional here - just worn and inexpensive examples. And yes, the Hadrian Sestertius is a replica! - I grew weary trying to find a genuine coin - and even significantly worn specimens are outrageously expensive. The modern Penny is a circulated birth year coin - just to illustrate the depiction of Britannia on latter day British coins. I will add more coins similar to these from time to time, but only on a casual basis.


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    RIC Vol. II, HADRIAN, Sestertius, No. 845
    Obverse: Hadrian, laureate head right
    Inscription: HADRIANVS AVG COS III PP
    Reverse: Britannia seated half left with feet on rocks holding sceptre with shield to right
    Inscription: BRITANNIA - SC (in exergue)
    (Replica coin)


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    BRITISH 1920s PENNY (Circulated)
    Obverse: George V, bare headed, facing left
    Inscription: GEORGIVS V DEI GRA BRITT OMN REX FID DEF IND IMP
    Reverse: Britannia wearing Corinthian helmet, seated left, holding trident with left hand and supporting shield with right hand
    Inscription: ONE PENNY - 1929 (in exergue)


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    RIC Vol. IV, SEPTIMIUS SEVERUS, Denarius, No. 335
    Obverse: Septimius Severus, Laureate head facing right
    Inscription clockwise from bottom: SEVERVS PIVS AVG BRIT
    Reverse: Victory seated left writing on shield
    Inscription: VICTORIAE BRIT


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    RIC Vol. IV, CARACALLA, Denarius, No. 231a
    Obverse: Caracalla, Laureate head facing right
    Inscription clockwise from bottom: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT
    Reverse: winged Victory advancing right holding trophy
    Inscription: VICTORIAE BRIT


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    RIC Vol. IV, GETA, Denarius, No. 91
    Obverse: Geta, Laureate head facing right
    Inscription clockwise from bottom: P SEPT GETA PIVS AVG BRIT
    Reverse: Victory standing left holding wreath and palm branch
    Inscription: VICTORIAE BRIT




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    RIC II, COMMODUS, Denarius, No. 146
    Obverse: Commodus, Laureate head facing right
    Inscription clockwise from bottom: M COMM ANT P FEL AVG BRIT
    Reverse: Pietas standing left, holding a box and dropping incense from a patera onto an altar
    Inscription: AVCT PIET PM TRP XII IMP VIII COS V PP




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    RIC II, COMMODUS, Sestertius, No. 452
    Obverse: Commodus, Laureate head facing right
    Inscription clockwise from bottom: M COMMODVS ANTON AVG PIVS BRIT
    Reverse: Winged Victory seated, writing on shield
    Inscription: S C (left and right) VICT BRIT (exergue)


    Please post your BRIT/BRITANNIA coins (no “thread drift” please)
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    COMMODUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: M COMM ANT P FEL AVG BRIT PP, laureate head right
    REVERSE: CONC COM P M TR P XVI COS VI, Concordia standing left, holding patera & scepter
    Struck at Rome, 191 AD
    2.5g, 17mm
    RIC 219
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    CARACALLA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, laureate head right
    REVERSE: MONETA AVG, Moneta standing left, holding scales & cornucopiae
    Struck at Rome, 211 AD
    2.28g, 19mm
    RIC 224
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    CARACALLA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, laureate head right
    REVERSE: P M TR P XIIII COS III P P, Pax running left holding branch & scepter
    Struck at Rome, 211 AD
    3.11g, 18mm
    RIC 184, RSC 190, BMC 4
     
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  4. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Bing. Excellent example coins. BTW I have an Antoninus Pius Britannia As on the way, but I don’t want to post the pic here until I have it in hand - the perceived CT hex you know!
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I will never do that again. That MA Legio XIIII was cursed because I posted before I got it.

    BTW, you have some very lovely coins.
     
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  6. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I, too, just last week purchased a Septimius As with Brit (my first Brit) in obverse legend, but will also wait to post until it's in hand. :chicken::chicken::chicken:;)
     
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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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    Commodus 177-192 AD
    Denarius 186-189 AD ROME
    M COMM ANT P FEL AVG BRIT, laureate head right
    ROMAE AE TERNAE, Roma seated left holding Victory and scepter,
    C V P P in ex.

    2.30g UPR

    RIC 195, RSC 647, BMC 239, Cohen 64, sear5 #5690

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    Caracalla AD 198-217. Bronze (AR; 18-19mm; 3.40g; 12h) ancient forgery, regular style. ANTONINVS PIVS – AVG BRIT Laureate head of Caracalla to right. Rev. INDVLG FECVNDAE Indulgentia, veilded, towered, draped, seated left on curule chair, extending right hand and holding secptre, pointing upwards to right, in left.

    cf. BMCRE V p. 370, 74 and pl. 55.3; cf. C. 104.
     
  8. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    My superstition confirmed! Thanks, Bing.
     
  9. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

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    Ah, we can both anxiously wait, Justin - with bated breath - and hopefully therefor avoid the jinx!
     
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  10. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you for posting those fine example coins, Randy.
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Sometimes it seems that way, but I actually doubt it. Not enough hours in the day for a dealer to keep up with the discussions on all the Ancient boards.
     
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  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Seems like it to me at times
     
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  14. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Love the thread @jamesicus ! Great coins everyone.

    Hopefully you all won't be opposed to me adding a modern Britannia to the thread.
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    She even looks good on modern stuff! ;)
     
  15. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you Curtisimo the Great (ish)! Your latter day Brit penny is very welcome!
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I do not know this dealer but did read his 'about us' page where he mentions selling coins from his collection and from consignments. He has coins that are reasonably priced IMO and over the top ridiculously high. Of course that is just a matter of opinion but sometimes it points to a consignment situation. Some dealers will accept coins on consignment and allow the consignor to set the prices (adding on his own fee for handling). If someone buys a coin for twice what it is worth and consigns it with a dealer who adds a hefty percentage, it might look like prices are going up when what we have is a dreamer.

    https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ma..._issue_ric_iv_14_s_scarce/985920/Default.aspx
    is this Septimius worth 100 euros more than the BRIT? I hope so. Legion XIIII GEMMV is the most common of the Septimius Legionaries. I have six variations but all mine have enough of the legion number that you don't have to know that XIIII is the only one that ends in MMV to ID the coin. I'll just show one which may not be EF but I have a prejudice for coins with legends. I know, I'm strange. (Yes I know this is a different variety than his.)
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    I'm not saying the BRIT is worth the price asked or not but just that many dealers have coins priced as they are for reasons other than the perceived value of the coin. The coin might be on consignment. He might have paid too much or got a real bargain. It might have been in his stock for a very long time or it might be new and he has a customer that tends to overpay willingly and likes coins like this. Have prices gone up? Certainly, except for the ones that went down. I have examples of both, don't you?

    This May, I showed my NEWP coin below (the most rare of the SS legions) at a show from a well known dealer for $255. Valentinian's recent post on old catalogs caused me to discover 'This Coin' sold in a 2000 auction for $380+fluff. It is the same coin. In 2000, it might have been more rare (someone found a chestful?), it might have been closer to the best known (I've seen better) or...... maybe two bidders just got carried away. This is a case of a coin that went down. If I sold it tomorrow, what would I get? We will never know. What are coins worth? ~3g. of ~50% silver? $16/18 = $0.89?
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  17. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

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    Caracalla denarius
    ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT
    Laur. head right

    MARTI PROPUGNATORI
    Mars walking left with trophy and spear

    VF
    Rome 213 AD

    Sear 6819
    Ric 223
     
  18. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    @dougsmit: Excellent explanation and great coins - thank you!
    Me too.
     
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  19. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Great Coin @Jay GT4 - thanks for posting it.
     
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  20. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I think even mentioning a purchase before it is in hand invokes a curse.

    The only thing you can do now is take appropriate personal vows.

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/VOTA/

    :)
     
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  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice little collection!


    Ok @jamesicus , I lived there for a few years many years ago. But, never really got any Ancients (well, except the Roman concrete...) Yeah, and a bunch of modern British coins reaching back into the early 1800's as well as British Gold. But, I never pic them nor post them.

    Here are my Britons:

    Ooops, well, Judaea Claudius honoring his son... But, there is BRIT on the reverse...:)
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    Judaea Claudius w-Britannicus CE 41-54 Æ Prutah 17mm 2.8g Antonius Felix-procurator Dated RY 14 54 CE 2-crossed shields spears - Palm tree BPIT K AI L IΔ date Hendin 1348

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    RI Carausius usurper in Britain CE 287–293 BI Ant 4.7g 24mm London radiate cuirassed - PAX AVG Pax stndg l branch scepter S—P RIC V 475

    How about Allectus? No Brit on it...
    RI Allectus 293-296 AE Quinarius London Virtus Galley AE17 2-3g S 13870 RIC 55.JPG
    RI Allectus 293-296 AE Quinarius London Virtus Galley AE17 2-3g S 13870 RIC 55

    RI Constantine I AVG Follis Votive XX seated captives 2.69g 18mm RIC VII 191 London.JPG
    RI Constantine I AVG Follis Votive XX seated captives 2.69g 18mm RIC VII 191 London

    Celtic Britain Iceni Boudicca 61 CE 1.03g Celt Hd r Celtic horse galloping Scarce.JPG
    Celtic Britain Iceni Boudicca 61 CE 1.03g Celt Hd r Celtic horse galloping Scarce

    Rome ISCA Legio II Augusta 75-300 CE Caerleon Concrete 2 pcs 26x21mm ea.JPG
    Rome ISCA Legio II Augusta 75-300 CE Caerleon Concrete 2 pcs 26x21mm ea
     
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