Bring Out Your Claudius Gothicus!

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    In his short two year reign, Claudius Gothicus struck a large number of truly ratty coins. There's a paper in a 1969 edition of The Numismatic Chronicle entitled "The Nadir of the Imperial Antoninianus in the Reign of Claudius II Gothicus". That's right, "NADIR"... so quite literally, the pits. And, while that paper addresses the microscopically token level of silver in his coins, most will agree that in general his coins score little better in terms of style and production values when compared to those struck in any of the other 1st to 3rd century years of Roman Imperial coinage.

    All that said, I've never been one to shy away from the enjoyment of ANY coin, because I've always felt our little pieces of history deserve to be loved for what they are and what they represent of their times :joyful:. But okay, before I start waxing lyrical over all the uncollectible coins I own, let me first show this unusually nice Claudius Gothicus that I did manage to pick up recently. It's in recognizably Antiochean style and nothing rare, but what it has going for it is an exceptionally well-executed portrait, deeply struck and decently centered enough that none of the devices are missing. Even the patchy silvering won't keep me calling this a flat-out stunner of a coin. Yes, it's already getting the stink eye from its many other less than pretty tray neighbours :D.

    Please feel free to post your coins of Claudius Gothicus!

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    CLAUDIUS GOTHICUS
    AE Antoninianus. 3.29g, 20.5mm. Antioch mint, circa early – mid AD 270. New RIC Online Temp #1053; RIC 221; Cohen 273. O: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate head right. R: SOL AVG, Sol with whip and upraised arm standing left.
     
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  3. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I have one and it was among the first ancient coin purchases I've made.

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    Claudius II (Gothicus), AD 268 - 270
    AE, antoninianus, 3.8g, 20mm; 11h; Rome, AD 269
    Obv.: IMP C CLAUDIUS AVG; radiate, draped, curiassed bust right
    Rev.: GENIVS AVG; Genius standing left by altar, holding patera and cornucopiae
     
  4. Pishpash

    Pishpash Supporter! Supporter

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    Claudius II
    Coin: Bronze Antoninianus
    IMP CLAVDIVS P F AVG - Radiate, draped bust right
    FIDES MILIT - Fides standing left holding two standards.
    Mint: Milan (268–270 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 4.76g / 20mm / -
    References:
    • RIC 149 corr. ("standing right");
    • Cohen 88
    • Sear 11335
    • RIC 149
    Tatty but pretty colours
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    Claudius II
    Coin: Bronze Ant
    IMP C CLADIVUS AVG - Radiate, curiassed bust right
    VIRTVS AVG - Soldier standing let holding branch and spear shield at foot retrograde epsilon in left field
    Mint: Rome (268-270 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 3.11g / 21mm / -
    References:
    • RIC 109
    Crappy obverse, but the reverse.....
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    Claudius II
    Coin: Bronze Ant
    IMP CLAVDIVS P F AVG - Radiate, draped bust right
    SPES P-VBLICA - Spes walking left, holding flower and raising robe
    Mint: Mediolanum* (Sept. 268-Jan. 269 A)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 2.16g / 20mm / -
    References:
    • RIC V 168
    • Venèra 9073-9106
    Notes: Nov 23, 14 - *No mint mark, should be P lots of silvering remains
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I have some provincials to add :). Tetradrachms of that general period in Roman Egypt had degraded quite a bit-- fabric, style, and quality-- but under Claudius II there appears to have been at least one talented engraver.

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Claudius II Gothicus
    year 1, CE 268
    tetradrachm
    Obv: AVTKKΛAΔIOCCEB; laureate draped bust right
    Rev: eagle standing right, head left, wreath in beak; L- A in right field
    Ref: Emmett 3878.1, R1

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Claudius II Gothicus
    year 3, CE 269/70
    tetradrachm, 20 mm, 10.2 gm
    Obv: AVTKKΛAVΔIOCCEB (In theory: what I can read on this coin doesn't quite match what the legend is supposed to be. Probably just engraver error or die deterioration); laureate head right
    Rev: Tyche standing left with rudder and cornucopia; L Γ in left field
    Ref: Emmett 3896.3, R4
     
  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    @Pishpash, that's quite a pretty Spes for the period.

    @Jwt708, a Claudius II was one of my first ancient pickups as well, a classic Divo Claudio, with all the typical problems of the period. Still love it.

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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Yeah, I bet your guy was getting the ol' stink eye from the other die cutters at the Alexandria mint :D.
     
  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    A little more Gothicus love.

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    CLAUDIUS GOTHICUS
    AE Antoninianus. 2.23g, 19.6mm. Antioch mint, AD 269-270. RIC 217 (scarce). O: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, draped bust right. R: SALVS AVG, Isis standing left holding sistrum and basket; [e] in exergue.

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    CLAUDIUS GOTHICUS
    Billon Antoninianus. 3.8g, 20mmm. Mediolanum mint, AD 268-270. RIC 171; C 302; Sear 11379. O: IMP CLAVDIVS P F AVG, radiate draped bust right. R: VICTORIA AVG, Victory running right holding wreath and palm; S in exergue.
     
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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Some of the low points..... I have worse....

    Claudius II Gothicus

    Obv:– IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, Radiate head left
    Rev:– IVNO REGINA, Juno standing left, patera in right, scepter in left, peacock at feet left
    Minted in Antioch. September 268 - August or September 270 A.D.
    Reference:– RIC V 212

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    Claudius II Gothicus

    Obv:– IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
    Rev:– IVVENTVS AVG, Hercules standing facing, head turned right, holding club set on ground in right hand, apple in left
    Minted in Antioch (//D). A.D. 68 - 270
    Reference:– RIC 213

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    But when they were good they were actually quite nice....

    Claudius II Gothicus

    Obv:– IMP CLAVDIVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– VIRTVS AVG, Mars advancing right, holding trophy and spear
    Minted in Milan. (P in exe)
    Reference:– RIC 172. Cohen 315

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    Their Alexandrian quality was sometimes superb. I find the reverse of this one utterly enchanting.

    Claudius II Gothicus, Billon tetradrachm

    Obv:– AVT K KΛAVΔIOC CEB, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– None, Nike advancing right, holding wreath & palm, year
    Minted in Alexandria, L in left field, B in right field (year 2). A.D. 268/269
    Reference:– Curtis 1712, BMC 2321 Milne 4228

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    Martin
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    @maridvnvm, the second Antioch with the Marty Feldman eye is quite brilliant! Your Alexandrian and @TIF's suggest that more of us should be looking out for them.
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm sure, I'll go after Martin's sweet examples ... this has to be my "most humble" ancient coin ...

    => oh, and it happens to be my 2nd ancient coin purchase "ever" (yah, apparently I wasn't quite as savvy back then, eh?)


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    :rolleyes:


    Don't worry, lil' Claudius-II ... you still have a warm place in my coin-heart
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh, sorry Z-Bro (I didn't comment on your amazingly awesome OP-addition!!)

    => it is a gorgeous example ... man, I am huge fan of Sol-types (The Sol man)

    => I'm jealous of your new winner

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  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    They may be mangy old fleabags, but they're our mangy old fleabags :D.
     
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  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful example @zumbly !!

    Terrific example guys, especially those cool provincials.

    A couple of my better examples:

    A 'Gothico' example and a Tet of Alexandria:
    claudius Gothicus and Gothico legend.jpg Claudius II Tet Potin Tet Alexandria  year I.jpg
     
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    @Mikey Zee, terrific Divo Gothico... definitely looks put out at being dead :D.
     
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    One that might be described as "the nadir," PROVIDENTIA AVG:

    Claudius II Providentia.jpg

    And one that's fairly decent in style and still with quite a bit of silvering left. RESTITVTOR ORBIS:

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  17. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great coin, Z!

    Bad image, hard to get.

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    Claudius II (268 - 270 A.D.)
    Æ Antoninianus
    O: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind.
    R: SALVS AVG, Isis Faria standing facing, head left, holding sistrum and basket; Є
    Antioch mint
    22mm
    3.37g
    RIC 217
     
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  18. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Thanks! That's a nice example of one of his more unusual reverses.
     
  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    VERY nice CIIG! Well done finding that quality piece.

    I have a couple, not nearly as nice. However, for my collection they are placeholders in my Emperors Portraits:

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    RI Claudius II 268-270 BI Ant Fortuna

    RI Claudius II 268-270 CE BI Ant Neptune Stndg dolphin trident Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Claudius II 268-270 CE BI Ant Neptune Stndg dolphin trident
     
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  20. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    My favorite Claudius II is this very tough to find piece:

    Claudius II REGI ARTIS.jpg
    Ox: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rx: REGI ARTIS, Vulcanus standing right, holding hammer and tongs
     
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  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Very nice! Despite the wretched condition of most of his coinage, he did have some interesting and unusual issues. If I recall correctly, REGI ARTIS (something like 'to the Ruler of the Arts') is unique to Claudius II.
     
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