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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1076108, member: 26302"]I thought it was technology to "sniff" chemical compounds placed on a coin. This is the direct cause of of all of the current lawsuit, and I thought this was the meaning of the phrase from NN articles I read. If I am wrong I apologize.</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>But they didn't. From memory, I believe the changes happened in the late 80's, just a coupel of years after they started. You stating what will happen is conjecture, I am stating what DID happen.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am glad you have another hobby, but I am not going to answer your little quiz. It is insulting. If you do not believe from any of my posts here I have collected coins for quite a while, that is your right, but I have met David Hall and John Albanese a few times at shows, Mr. Hall in the early 80's when PCGS was just a gleam in his eye.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Of course not. I was responding to your assertion that written or oral evidentiary records would have to exist if such a thing took place. I was just saying that things like this, anything similar, is not accomplished that was. People in every industry are smarter than that, so lack of evidence would not be concusive. That is ALL I was saying, I never inferred it had happened.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not you Lehigh, since you are smart enough to look past TPG grade and evaluate the coin itself. I was referring to someone just buying the holder because it said 65, and not realizing that when it was slabbed the TPG marked up the grade because the toning or some other attribute of the coin was valued in the market, but now maybe it wasn't. You are right surfaces are usually nice on toned coins, this is a little bit of the differences of opinion on toning. Original surfaces have always been valued, whether toned or not. These were valued in the late 70's as well, "original" coins, not "toned" coins. Original surfaces will always be in demand, they always have been. Toning, though, is not a guarantee of original surfaces, it just usually it means it will be there.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1076108, member: 26302"]I thought it was technology to "sniff" chemical compounds placed on a coin. This is the direct cause of of all of the current lawsuit, and I thought this was the meaning of the phrase from NN articles I read. If I am wrong I apologize. But they didn't. From memory, I believe the changes happened in the late 80's, just a coupel of years after they started. You stating what will happen is conjecture, I am stating what DID happen. I am glad you have another hobby, but I am not going to answer your little quiz. It is insulting. If you do not believe from any of my posts here I have collected coins for quite a while, that is your right, but I have met David Hall and John Albanese a few times at shows, Mr. Hall in the early 80's when PCGS was just a gleam in his eye. Of course not. I was responding to your assertion that written or oral evidentiary records would have to exist if such a thing took place. I was just saying that things like this, anything similar, is not accomplished that was. People in every industry are smarter than that, so lack of evidence would not be concusive. That is ALL I was saying, I never inferred it had happened. Not you Lehigh, since you are smart enough to look past TPG grade and evaluate the coin itself. I was referring to someone just buying the holder because it said 65, and not realizing that when it was slabbed the TPG marked up the grade because the toning or some other attribute of the coin was valued in the market, but now maybe it wasn't. You are right surfaces are usually nice on toned coins, this is a little bit of the differences of opinion on toning. Original surfaces have always been valued, whether toned or not. These were valued in the late 70's as well, "original" coins, not "toned" coins. Original surfaces will always be in demand, they always have been. Toning, though, is not a guarantee of original surfaces, it just usually it means it will be there.[/QUOTE]
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