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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 1075812, member: 15309&quot;]I thought the &quot;sniffer&quot; was the terminology used to describe the new laser system that PCGS uses in the Secure Plus service.&nbsp; Here is the PCGS description of the secure plus service:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I hope this explains how it pertains to numerical grades.&nbsp; If you have anymore questions, perhaps you should venture over to the PCGS website and learn a little more about it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If either TPG tries that course of action two things will happen.&nbsp; Every single customer will defect to the competition and they will face a multitude of lawsuits from collectors and dealers with deep pockets.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know if you know this, but I am an avid poker player and have a instinct for knowing when people are &quot;blowing smoke&quot;.&nbsp; And my bluff sensor is going crazy with this most recent post of yours.&nbsp; I would like to ask you some questions because I don&#039;t think you have done your homework.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>1)&nbsp; Did you really not know that PCGS&#039;s new Secure+ system is capable of recognizing previously graded coins?</p><p>2)&nbsp; Who exactly changed their grading standards in the 80&#039;s?</p><p>3)&nbsp; What year did this change in standards take place?</p><p>4)&nbsp; What year was PCGS founded?</p><p>5)&nbsp; Who founded PCGS and why?</p><p>6)&nbsp; What year was NGC founded?</p><p>7)&nbsp; Who was the founder of NGC and what other service did he create?</p><p>8)&nbsp; Now that you have done your homework, how many PCGS &amp; NGC graded coins would you say were affected by the changed grading standards.</p><p>9)&nbsp; Do you really think that either PCGS or NGC could simply change their standards overnight and get away with it?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now I know you are just blowing smoke.&nbsp; Do your really expect me to believe that you have insider knowledge of how the TPG&#039;s are changing their standards when you can&#039;t even post one example that shows that standards have changed?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Eye appeal is an element of grading and it seems unlikely that the TPG&#039;s would eliminate it as an element of grading anytime in the future.&nbsp; Or are you banking on the scenario that someone will discover that all toning is AT?<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>So you are worried about paying MS65 money for an MS64 coin.&nbsp; You consider those that do suckers!&nbsp; I am going to provide a link to a thread created by one of our fellow Cointalkers, TomB.&nbsp; Tom wrote this thread in 2003 on the NGC forum and it basically describes his coin purchasing philosophy.&nbsp; Read it and perhaps you will learn something about building a great collection.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=179270&amp;fpart=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=179270&amp;fpart=1" rel="nofollow">Something I have learned about Numismatics</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Take note that this thread was penned in 2003 and the author talks about something he learned over the years.&nbsp; I guess Doug assumes that he learned it in 2002.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And before you accuse me of belittling you again, remember, you are the one who just called me a sucker![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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