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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1075455, member: 15309"]You are confusing what Farazzi was saying. He was talking solely about the practice of market grading coins with wear to mint state grades. This is a change from the old grading standards that pre-dated the TPG's. Doug claims that the TPG's always included that aspect of market grading in their standards but have abused it in recent years. Either way, I am willing to admit that the TPG's have changed their standards regarding the market grading of coins with roll friction, toning, and key date rarity. The number of coins affected by those changes is very small in relation to the total number of coins graded. What I don't agree with is the notion that the TPG's intentionally change their standards for the numerical grade thereby causing gradeflation.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you admit that you can sometimes see breaks in luster in photos, then there is no excuse why you can't find a coin that shows evidence of wear (from circulation) in a mint state TPG holder on Heritage. Both you and Doug claim that it is a common practice. All I have asked for is one example. I don't think that is an unreasonable request. And I have not belittled you at all. And yes, I have bought hundreds of uncirculated coins from photos because I agree with the accepted practice that the TPG's employ regarding roll friction. Remember the Saint I posted. I saw the wear in the photo, I saw the MS63 grade on the slab, and I accept the fact that the wear on the leg and breast are the result of roll friction, not circulation wear.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1075455, member: 15309"]You are confusing what Farazzi was saying. He was talking solely about the practice of market grading coins with wear to mint state grades. This is a change from the old grading standards that pre-dated the TPG's. Doug claims that the TPG's always included that aspect of market grading in their standards but have abused it in recent years. Either way, I am willing to admit that the TPG's have changed their standards regarding the market grading of coins with roll friction, toning, and key date rarity. The number of coins affected by those changes is very small in relation to the total number of coins graded. What I don't agree with is the notion that the TPG's intentionally change their standards for the numerical grade thereby causing gradeflation. If you admit that you can sometimes see breaks in luster in photos, then there is no excuse why you can't find a coin that shows evidence of wear (from circulation) in a mint state TPG holder on Heritage. Both you and Doug claim that it is a common practice. All I have asked for is one example. I don't think that is an unreasonable request. And I have not belittled you at all. And yes, I have bought hundreds of uncirculated coins from photos because I agree with the accepted practice that the TPG's employ regarding roll friction. Remember the Saint I posted. I saw the wear in the photo, I saw the MS63 grade on the slab, and I accept the fact that the wear on the leg and breast are the result of roll friction, not circulation wear.[/QUOTE]
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