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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The Eidolon, post: 7471655, member: 102103&quot;]Thank you!&nbsp; It&#039;s always good to get positive feedback.&nbsp; I&#039;ve certainly enjoyed&nbsp; trying to ID these, and learned a bit in the process.&nbsp; I&#039;m surprised as to how many worn junk &quot;coppers&quot; turn out to be billon.</p><p><br /></p><p>For today:&nbsp; 20.5 mm, 2.12 g copper or billon</p><p>Rev:&nbsp; Eagle in circle with edge text &quot;DVX.SAB&quot; as part (maybe)</p><p>Ob:&nbsp; Unreadable.&nbsp; Probably a portrait</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1293845[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1293846[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Fortunately, the edge text is enough to get some likely candidates when I do a <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=italie_etats&amp;r=&amp;ct=coin&amp;tb=y&amp;tc=y&amp;tn=y&amp;tp=y&amp;tt=y&amp;cat=y&amp;ru=&amp;ca=3&amp;no=&amp;v=&amp;d=&amp;i=DVX+SAB&amp;a=&amp;dg=&amp;m=&amp;f=&amp;t=20-21&amp;w=2-3&amp;u=&amp;g=&amp;se=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=italie_etats&amp;r=&amp;ct=coin&amp;tb=y&amp;tc=y&amp;tn=y&amp;tp=y&amp;tt=y&amp;cat=y&amp;ru=&amp;ca=3&amp;no=&amp;v=&amp;d=&amp;i=DVX+SAB&amp;a=&amp;dg=&amp;m=&amp;f=&amp;t=20-21&amp;w=2-3&amp;u=&amp;g=&amp;se=" rel="nofollow">search</a> with reasonable range for the size and weight.&nbsp; Looks closest to this <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25923.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25923.html" rel="nofollow">2.6 Soldi</a> from Savoy.&nbsp; Double checking <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=savoy&amp;r=2.6+soldi&amp;ct=coin&amp;tb=y&amp;tc=y&amp;tn=y&amp;tp=y&amp;tt=y&amp;cat=y&amp;ru=&amp;ca=3&amp;no=&amp;v=&amp;d=&amp;i=&amp;a=&amp;dg=&amp;m=&amp;f=&amp;t=&amp;w=&amp;u=&amp;g=&amp;se=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=savoy&amp;r=2.6+soldi&amp;ct=coin&amp;tb=y&amp;tc=y&amp;tn=y&amp;tp=y&amp;tt=y&amp;cat=y&amp;ru=&amp;ca=3&amp;no=&amp;v=&amp;d=&amp;i=&amp;a=&amp;dg=&amp;m=&amp;f=&amp;t=&amp;w=&amp;u=&amp;g=&amp;se=" rel="nofollow">under Savoy</a>, I see 2 types with similar lettering and various rulers:&nbsp; <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25923.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25923.html" rel="nofollow">Carlo Emanuele III</a> (1755-58), <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83414.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83414.html" rel="nofollow">Vittorio Amadeo III</a> (1781-85).</p><p>Ones Vittorio Emanuele I and Carlo Emanuele IV have a similar eagle, but slightly different edge lettering.&nbsp; Of the two with the possible text match, the Vittorio Amadeo III is listed at 21.2 mm and the Carlo Emanuele III at 20 mm.&nbsp; Mine is just over 20 mm, and has probably undergone some shrinkage from wear, so the best candidate match is:</p><p><br /></p><p>Duchy of Savoy, 2.6 Soldi, Vittorio Amadeo III (1781-85)</p><p>Ob:&nbsp; Portrait, &quot;CAR·EM·D·G·REX·SAR·CYP·ET·IER·&quot; (Not readable on mine)</p><p>Rev:&nbsp; &quot;DVX·SAB·ET·MONTISF·PRINC·PED·SOL·2·6·&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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