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<p>[QUOTE="Collect89, post: 2774987, member: 15445"]On Father’s Day we attended a small coin show where we found two ancient coins tucked-away in a non-ancient dealer’s token inventory. (BTW, I also grabbed an old Nixon political button that is written in Hebrew). The only thing written on the ancient coin flips was $15 on one & $5 on the other. Now that you know the story, here are my questions about these two:</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #4d4dff">#1 Caracalla Denarius:</span></b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]640817[/ATTACH]</p><p>Initially I thought the coin was Antonius Pius but then settled on Caracalla. (Like I'm the first one to do that). Thus far I couldn’t find this Caracalla in the fake reports. Dating the coin is proving to be a real hassle and also I’m not finding the exact coin on Wildwinds. Therefore, I’m getting worried that it may be a fantasy coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>My Sear book says that Caracalla begins being depicted with a beard in 209. It’s pretty clear that he has a beard on my new coin. However, the coin clearly states COS II which is supposed to be 205. Also the coin clearly states TR.P.VI which should be 203. The final enigma is that the weight is 5.15 like a double denarius (antoninianus) which was supposedly first introduced at the end of 214. WA DA YA THINK? Am I looking in the wrong book? PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GUIDANCE IF YOU CAN. Here is the coin label I’ve prepared assuming that the coin is real:</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><b>Caracalla 198-217 AD</b></font></p><p><font size="3"><b>AR Double Denarius (Antoninianus)</b></font></p><p><font size="3">5.15 grams, 19.7 mm</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Obv:</b> Caracalla Laureate head right</font></p><p><font size="3"> ANTONINUS.PIUS.AVG.GERM.</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Rev:</b> Caracalla standing in toga facing left</font></p><p><font size="3"> Sacrificing from patera over tripod</font></p><p><font size="3"> P.M.TR.P.VI.COS.II.P.P.</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Grade:</b> a good VF or better including great</font></p><p><font size="3"> centering and sharp strike with all</font></p><p><font size="3"> legends clear.</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Other:</b> Caracalla was a bad boy that had his brother Geta killed. Caracalla was ordered killed by Macrinus in 217 AD. From private sale, 6/17.</font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">#2 Ptolemy or maybe some Alexander bronze?</span></b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]640822[/ATTACH]</p><p>This one was $5 and chunky. I’ve certainly had $5 worth of fun trying to attribute it. Unfortunately, I still don’t know what it is. In fact, I haven’t got a ticket on the clue bus.</p><p><br /></p><p>The weight is 5.83 grams with a diameter between 17 mm and 18.3 mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you folks think it is a Ptolemy I or II bronze or perhaps it is some odd type of Alexander bronze coinage? I need more books & I certainly appreciate your help.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Collect89, post: 2774987, member: 15445"]On Father’s Day we attended a small coin show where we found two ancient coins tucked-away in a non-ancient dealer’s token inventory. (BTW, I also grabbed an old Nixon political button that is written in Hebrew). The only thing written on the ancient coin flips was $15 on one & $5 on the other. Now that you know the story, here are my questions about these two: [B][COLOR=#4d4dff]#1 Caracalla Denarius:[/COLOR][/B] [ATTACH=full]640817[/ATTACH] Initially I thought the coin was Antonius Pius but then settled on Caracalla. (Like I'm the first one to do that). Thus far I couldn’t find this Caracalla in the fake reports. Dating the coin is proving to be a real hassle and also I’m not finding the exact coin on Wildwinds. Therefore, I’m getting worried that it may be a fantasy coin. My Sear book says that Caracalla begins being depicted with a beard in 209. It’s pretty clear that he has a beard on my new coin. However, the coin clearly states COS II which is supposed to be 205. Also the coin clearly states TR.P.VI which should be 203. The final enigma is that the weight is 5.15 like a double denarius (antoninianus) which was supposedly first introduced at the end of 214. WA DA YA THINK? Am I looking in the wrong book? PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GUIDANCE IF YOU CAN. Here is the coin label I’ve prepared assuming that the coin is real: [SIZE=3][B]Caracalla 198-217 AD[/B] [B]AR Double Denarius (Antoninianus)[/B] 5.15 grams, 19.7 mm [B]Obv:[/B] Caracalla Laureate head right ANTONINUS.PIUS.AVG.GERM. [B]Rev:[/B] Caracalla standing in toga facing left Sacrificing from patera over tripod P.M.TR.P.VI.COS.II.P.P. [B]Grade:[/B] a good VF or better including great centering and sharp strike with all legends clear. [B]Other:[/B] Caracalla was a bad boy that had his brother Geta killed. Caracalla was ordered killed by Macrinus in 217 AD. From private sale, 6/17.[/SIZE] [B][COLOR=#0000ff]#2 Ptolemy or maybe some Alexander bronze?[/COLOR][/B] [ATTACH=full]640822[/ATTACH] This one was $5 and chunky. I’ve certainly had $5 worth of fun trying to attribute it. Unfortunately, I still don’t know what it is. In fact, I haven’t got a ticket on the clue bus. The weight is 5.83 grams with a diameter between 17 mm and 18.3 mm. Do you folks think it is a Ptolemy I or II bronze or perhaps it is some odd type of Alexander bronze coinage? I need more books & I certainly appreciate your help.[/QUOTE]
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