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<p>[QUOTE="ajm229, post: 91282, member: 3350"]After reading everybody's comments in here, I have to say that I agree with the opinions of those who would like to see everything slabbed, regardless of the outcome (cleaned/not cleaned/counterfeit/etc.). When people send in their coins to a TPG (for the most part) they are sending them in specifically to be slabbed. Authentication and determination of the state of the coin (cleaned/not/whatever) is a step in that process. When something comes back BB'd and not slabbed, my money has been wasted on that process. Many numismatists submit things to TPGs for grading and slabbing because they themselves are not skilled enough to make the determination of a coin's true grade and state. I know I'm not. So when the company refuses to grade a coin and keeps the fee charged for the service, it seems to be robbery. It seems to be a very shady practice in which you are gambling for a service that ought to be fulfilled rather than hit-or-miss.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for you are quite right: the reason to slab coins is to provide authenticity, even if the coin is AUTHENTICALLY CLEANED or an AUTHENTIC FAKE. </p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know what they could do, though. Perhaps there would be some merit in trying to implement a system by which there are separate submittance and slabbing fees. Something like where you could submit a coin for authentication for X dollars, and have it returned to you in the same condition that it was submitted in (i.e. unslabbed), and there could be a separate fee of Y dollars for slabbing. This way, people who just wanted EVERYTHING slabbed regardless of cleaning/counterfeiting/etc could have their coins slabbed. This way they absolutely know that they will be getting what they have then paid for. I know I'd be more inclined to use something like this system for coins they I'd like to have professionally graded but not slabbed, and for other coins that I'd like both slabbed and graded. Maybe in the future they'll switch to some kind of fairer system.... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And for those of you who don't want slabs with cleaned coins or fakes or whatnots, simply don't purchase them and you'll be fine.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, that's what I think about it. ~AJ[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ajm229, post: 91282, member: 3350"]After reading everybody's comments in here, I have to say that I agree with the opinions of those who would like to see everything slabbed, regardless of the outcome (cleaned/not cleaned/counterfeit/etc.). When people send in their coins to a TPG (for the most part) they are sending them in specifically to be slabbed. Authentication and determination of the state of the coin (cleaned/not/whatever) is a step in that process. When something comes back BB'd and not slabbed, my money has been wasted on that process. Many numismatists submit things to TPGs for grading and slabbing because they themselves are not skilled enough to make the determination of a coin's true grade and state. I know I'm not. So when the company refuses to grade a coin and keeps the fee charged for the service, it seems to be robbery. It seems to be a very shady practice in which you are gambling for a service that ought to be fulfilled rather than hit-or-miss. As for you are quite right: the reason to slab coins is to provide authenticity, even if the coin is AUTHENTICALLY CLEANED or an AUTHENTIC FAKE. I don't know what they could do, though. Perhaps there would be some merit in trying to implement a system by which there are separate submittance and slabbing fees. Something like where you could submit a coin for authentication for X dollars, and have it returned to you in the same condition that it was submitted in (i.e. unslabbed), and there could be a separate fee of Y dollars for slabbing. This way, people who just wanted EVERYTHING slabbed regardless of cleaning/counterfeiting/etc could have their coins slabbed. This way they absolutely know that they will be getting what they have then paid for. I know I'd be more inclined to use something like this system for coins they I'd like to have professionally graded but not slabbed, and for other coins that I'd like both slabbed and graded. Maybe in the future they'll switch to some kind of fairer system.... :rolleyes: And for those of you who don't want slabs with cleaned coins or fakes or whatnots, simply don't purchase them and you'll be fine. Anyway, that's what I think about it. ~AJ[/QUOTE]
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