Blue toned penny??

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by MorganDollarTJ, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If you simply want a way to color a cent, you've been given suggestions that should achieve this desire. However, the above post makes me respectfully question your intent. Please understand that experimenting should not be viewed as wrong (most everyone has at one time or another), but there is a difference between said experimenting and basically asking for directions on how to artificially tone a coin, especially when the wished for end result is color. Your quest may be innocent, but certain posts in this thread should tell you that some view such questions with great skepticism; anyone with less than noble intents wishing to learn is not going to come right out and say so.
     
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  3. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    sorry, well i am just experimenting but i was just curious (in my above post) an approximate time frame i should leave it there, i am often busy and do not want to leave it in there for too long, sorry if my wording gets confusing sometimes, i have medical conditions that give me "brain fog" so i often type something in a way most people may not understand, or that they would misinterpret. AND i am very new to the whole chemical reactions with coins thing, i have only been collecting for about 2 years and am only 15 years old and have not tried any of this before, i am just curious. i hardly sell any of my coins and would NEVER, EVER, EVER do artificial toning and then sell it calling it natural. EVER so please try not to make me look like someone that would do it because i would never do that sort of thing..
     
  4. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    And once again, i must state this. i am not doing this or trying to do it for profit, the only place they would go are in my collection and never leave it, they would be to look at and would be labeled AT. Please do not think i am wanting to know how to do this to make a profit, i am not. i just want a coin that looks cool like ones i have seen on the internet, without spending tons of money. Once again, these would NEVER leave my collection. Thank you all for your help.
     
  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    [FONT=&amp]I am not making you "look like" anything, sir, and personally could not care less about why you wish to do this. [/FONT]
     
  6. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    your wording sure made it seem like it.. I think all of this is just a misinterpretation between the two of us, sorry
     
  7. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    All you will do with the above acidic's is clean the copper, what you what is a patina solution that is used to age copper, now you can use urine, like they did in Roman and Greek studio's. There are thousands of formula's and procedures. Toning is a "patina" on a coin, I have to agree with what has been said in some of the other posts. That the people that are doing it, to get people to pay a premium for a regular coin. I am not a fan of toning as a way to generate extra cash!

    But to each his or her own. If you like God bless you, if you don't God bless them too.
    The problem you will have attempting this with zinc plated coins is the traditional heat patina, will not react the same on a plated coin as a sheet of pure copper.
    It is an art to flame paint on copper metal decorative objects. You can google flame painting on copper, heat patina on copper
     
  8. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    thank you very much for the help
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    ...therefor anyone who may happen to know how to do it are of two minds. Either they learned it innocently without attempt to deceive, or they learned it and use it to deceive others. Either way people who may know how to do such things do not want to publish instructions on how to do it. Coin doctors do not want any more competition, and anyone who might have learned this before AT was done with the intent to deceive simply believe the information shouldn't be publicly available.

    There is a difference between knowing a guy, knowing his intentions, and then helping him out versus writing something on the internet that can be Googled by any nefarious characters. Know what I mean?
     
  10. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    well I just found a way to make a cool blue/gold penny :) should I say or not, because of what medoraman just mentioned, which makes a lot of sense
     
  11. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Sky Bluewish Natural Toned on my 1943 D/D Steel Cent also a crack die from 2'clock to 7' o clock

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  12. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I know the change I keep in my car changes every color imaginable in a short time. Of course, it's 120 degrees outside and probably 200 or so in the car. Its too hot to touch so it usually just hangs out in the console.
     
  13. MorganDollarTJ

    MorganDollarTJ Senior Member YN

    ohhh, well that's kind of what I figured out to turn them cool colors and to turn a penny silver, it is AMAZING, one word.. lightbulb ;)
     
  14. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I wouldn't call that toning. I always thought the pennies started out as that blue-steel color... then as they oxidize, they turn the white-grey color, eventually rusting.
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Doesn't anyone take Chemistry in High School or College anymore??? What copper compound(s) are blue and in what concentration can they form thin films with refraction wavelengths in the 'neon blue' color desired. Piece of cake :)
     
  16. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    FWIW, that isn't taught in high school chemistry anymore. Inorganic chemistry is probably the closest. :p
     
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