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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4055112, member: 112"]Yup, happens quite a lot actually. Your comment seems to indicate that you think the dirt is just sitting there on the surface of the coin as if it fell onto the coin like crumbs or something. And if it was just sitting there yeah it would fall off. But since it didn't fall off while the coin was being handled, for grading if nothing else, then rather obviously the dirt and grime isn't just sitting there on the surface - it's stuck to the coin. Let me ask you a question, if you get a coin in change and it's got dirt and grime on it, does that dirt just fall off the coin, can you blow it off even with canned air ? The answer of course is no you can't - because it's stuck to the coin. You can get it off if you clean the coin, but that's the only way it's gonna come off. And yeah, I realize your line of thinking is predicated on the coin being graded MS, and that an MS coin can't have or at least shouldn't have dirt and grime on it. Of course now if the coin wasn't MS at all, then having dirt and grime on it wouldn't be at all unusual now would it ? And that's the thing, the coin isn't MS - it's AU. Even with the limited pics you posted you can see that there's light wear on the wing tips and some of the letters. So the coin having some dirt and grime on it is perfectly natural.[/QUOTE]