Right, well if you're looking for a bargain you're looking under rocks and in hidden alleyways, not at the main street dealer.
If I spent a ton of money on a coin it would have to be slabbed. If I sent a coin back to the dealer it would have to have be sent back with a tracking number. that way you know that they received it and if they denied getting it I would get the police involved.
The wisest names that have ever been in numismatics will all tell you the same thing - there are no bargains.
That's almost the most absurd thing I've ever seen you post...... I guess I gotta sell my coins, yeah right.
If you would have included my entire post, you would have seen I said that half of numismatics weren't available to those who refuse to buy raw coins. That is my estimate of different types of series and coins, and which ones commonly have their coins slabbed, and those that don't. If you wish to collect almost any ancient coin series, and refuse to buy unslabbed coins, then you effectively cannot collect them, since almost none are slabbed. Is that clearer my intentions of the post?
Can't speak for US coins, but buying world coins there are indeed bargains to be had. Of course there are at least 100 rip-offs for every bargain, but again it's a matter of knowing what you're buying. I would imagine your point stands strongly for US coins, since there are way too many sharks in that ocean.
Attorney general in Mi does not take it seriously even though it was a felony over $100 in this particular case .
Doesn't the secret service have responsibility for counterfeit currency? I would be surprised if they have some sort of cut off date on the money where they lose interest in pursuing a case. I would expect they go after any counterfeit us coins or currency
If it was through the mails, the Postal Inspectors might have jurisdiction. I think the Secret Service would be interested if it was counterfeit US currency.
To clear a few assumptions, I'll continue. 1) These were not bargain coins. Chinese and Russian coins and I paid good money on them. Definitely above catalog value. 2) On the matter of slabs - I think there seems to be a huge assumption (or deception) that there are plenty of such coins available including in slabs. I have been collecting rather obscure coins and these coins rarely appear in the market. I grabbed the opportunity when I saw them available for sale. Bear in mind that these are coins that I have looked for at least five to TEN years. If you said that I should have waited until a slab appeared, I guess I probably wouldn't see another one any time soon. Maybe everyone has different level of patience. 3) If these were in a slab and if these are in counterfeit slabs, I suspect it would have been a lot harder for me to see tellsigns. Again, this is not a debate about slabs, bargains, sellers etc but it's more about how one should always keep ahead of the counterfeit game. You might want to mitigate the risk by assuming the slab is genuine, paying good money, believing in a good seller's reputution but ultimately, it's your own skills in identifying counterfeits that count the most. I would post the photos of them but will hold off until the investigation for them is over. Would rather not jinx it.