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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;BRandM, post: 1888705, member: 22729&quot;]Thanks for the link Numismat.</p><p><br /></p><p>The late Russ Rulau issued a comprehensive catalog on Latin American tokens, including counterstamps (1992?). He had great interest in these issues and actually had a wonderful collection, parts of which were recently sold by Steve Hayden. I don&#039;t have a copy because I never had a particular interest in Latin American tokens, but I think you should be able to pick up one fairly cheaply online.</p><p><br /></p><p>I looked through my Brunk book carefully and he has some interesting coumments in general about Brazilian counterstamps and in particular about the ones your link referenced. This is what he wrote in his section on Brazilian counterstamps.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <b>RELIGIOUS FESTIVALS</b></p><p><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Minas Gerais</b></p><p>These countermarked coins were distributed to poor people at the Festivals of the Holy Spirit in Sabara, Santa Luzia, Congonhas, Sao Joao d&#039;el Rey, and other cities in Minas Gerais. They were similar to the Maundy coins of England. Two different types of doves appear in the illustrated counterstamps. Prober (1966: 154) notes that counterfeits exist consisting of the outline of a dove.</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Dove Surrounded by Rays&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (ETC-12)</b></p><p><b>Dove / Junho 4 De 1911&nbsp; J.L.M.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (L-39)</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>The illustration he provides look very much like the ones that are shown in the link you provided. I don&#039;t know if yours might be one of the counterfeits that Prober has documented or not because he describes it as the &quot;outline&quot; of a dove. Yours is a full dove stamp. In the reference section of his book Brunk lists this for Prober.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Prober, Kurt&nbsp; <i>Moedas Brasileiras </i>(1966)</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>I assume this is a book written by this man so you might want to check it out. I believe Prober also has a lot of information, and perhaps illustrations, of Brazilian fazenda tokens.</p><p><br /></p><p>Good luck Numismat and keep us up to date on your findings.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bruce[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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