Billon Tetradrachm of Emperor Macrinus

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  1. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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  3. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Mike, what a wonderful coin to have in your collection :D! Not only are father & son together but the coin is blessed with a lovely patina :woot:. Your coin fits the description of Group 3: AE 19 (as) - Rev. Bust of Diadumenian as described by McAlee in his iconic book. I do not see the bust of Diadumenian on your coin as draped, only cuirassed, whereas the father is draped & cuirassed. The heavy wear on your coin makes this difficult to discern. If my observation is correct your coin would list as #739 in McAlee's book. The coin he illustrates is in much better condition than your coin & weighs 4.0 gm, & is listed as Rare. Hopefully other CT members will chime in & offer an opinion on your coin :rolleyes:.
     
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  4. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Al, thank you so much for taking the time to straighten out my attribution - I really appreciate it. I don't have McAlee's book and therefore rely on scrounging around Internet auctions, etc. And a lot of times I am guessing...

    I will update my flip insert accordingly! Again, many thanks.
     
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  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice acquisition @Al Kowsky

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    Macrinus, Tetradrachm - Antioch mint, Ca AD 217-218
    AYG K M OP SE MAKRINOS SEB, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Macrinus right
    DHMARX EXYPATO, Eagle facing, holding wreath in beak, standing on thigh. D E in upper field
    12.76 gr
    Ref : Sear #2948, Prieur # 246_055


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    Macrinus, Bronze - Nicopolis mint
    AVT KM .... H MAKRINOC, Laureate and cuirassed bust of Macrinus right
    V M AGRIPPA NIKOPOLITWNPROC IC TR, Tyche standing left, holding cornucopia and rudder
    14.26 gr
    Ref : ANMG #1710

    Q
     
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  6. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Q, You've got a couple of Macrinus jewels :jawdrop:! The Antioch Tet would be nearly impossible to duplicate & appears to be struck in exceptional metal for a War Issue. The portrait on the Nicopolis bronze is breathtaking :eek:, & could stand up to the finest examples from the Rome Mint :D. The detail on the back shoulder view enhances the composition & gives Macrinus a royal appearance. The reverse composition is beautifully done also. This coin is a one in a million find. Anyone who thinks all provincial coinage is inferior to the product from the Rome Mint needs to take a close look at these two coins :wideyed:.
     
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  7. Svarog

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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    IMHO, the Provincials of Macrinus include a far greater than average number of exceptional portraits from several mints considering how short a period he was emperor. There are short bears, long beards, ordinary plain faces and those showing emotion. I can not explain it but I can enjoy.
     
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  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Svarog, You made a nice score at the Stacks auction & the price of $336 looks like a bargain too :D! The coins from the Carrhae Mint are interesting & puzzling. It appears they only struck Tets for Caracalla & Macrinus, & they were in two distinct styles. One style depicts the emperor with a laurel wreath, & those coins have a bull head mint mark, the other style depicts the emperor with a radiate crown, & those coins have a crescent moon mint mark. Both styles were struck for both emperors. Another puzzling feature on your coin type are the 2 pellets under the bust & the 3 pellets on the reverse in exergue o_O. I've never seen a plausible explanation for these pellets. The coin pictured below is a Tet of Caracalla from Carrhae showing the other style minted there.
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  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I also have (what I believe to be ) a provincial of Macrinus:

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  11. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    Mac was thicc!
     
  12. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I recently got another Macrinus - an "SC" AE from Antioch. Now I have two! This features what I believe is the longer beard.

    I had some trouble attributing it because I was unable to get an exact match on the obverse legend. Or did I? A bit confused, which is often the case with me and Roman Provincials :banghead:

    Macrinus - Antioch SC Jan 2020 (0).jpg

    Macrinus Æ 18
    (217-218 A.D.)
    Syria, Seleucis & Pieria
    Antiochia ad Orontem

    AVT K M O CE MAKΡINOCC, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right / SC in wreath fastened with star, Δ above, Є below.
    McAlee 723c. BMC386 (var.)
    (7.52 grams / 18 mm)

    Attribution Note:
    The short obverse legend shows up on several examples online, but these were the lighter-weight examples (around 5 grams). I was unable to get an exact match with a full, clear attribution for a large one. Maybe they are the same? (Jan. 2020).
     
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  13. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    M.M., Your coin by visual comparison sure looks like McAlee 723c, however, the coin he illustrates weighs only 3.6 gm o_O. He does illustrate an Aes coin (722a) 22 mm with a weight of 6.47 gm, listed as Ex. Rare. All the 723 coins a-d are listed as V. Rare. He does add an interesting footnote to 722a: "This unique coin appears to be a transitional type, similar in size & weight to the asses of Caracalla. Apparently there was a small initial issue of bronze coins on the weight standard of Caracalla (weighing c. 7 g) prior to the introduction of coinage to the reduced standard (c. 4 g)." I don't know if McAlee's speculation with this footnote holds water since all these coins are so rare :confused:. Was the weight standard on these small bronze coins tightly held, with so few examples to draw from it's hard to conclude.
     
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  14. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    a.c. hunter, I wish there was more detail on your images to draw a conclusion with :(. Maybe some of the CT provincial coin experts can pin it down.
     
  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Perhaps. I was thinking the reverse featured Apollo, but it may be priapus.
     
  16. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Once again Al, you've made my day! Thank you so much for digging up all this information on my Macrinus. Rare. Huh! I feel like my tiny Antioch collection just got 372% more interesting.

    I will incorporate this information into a new and improved attribution for this.

    Thanks again! :)
     
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