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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 2742473, member: 76863"]That by definition is their maximum bid and no different than what happens at auction houses. Bids only go as high as a person goes, if they bid it that is their max or below their max, nowhere can make someone bid above what they agree too.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the story you told about the coin going for two much, obviously two people didn't think so since it takes two to get bids to the level it got to. Regardless in no way is that eBay's fault nor a poor reflection on them or a sniping program. The bidder set the bid and if they tried to back out of it at an auction house there would be consequences. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That isn't the sniping programs that is the bidders. The programs only do what they are told to do. They programs aren't competing against each other they are bidding up to the maximum the user told them to bid too. The programs aren't Skynet, they don't get competitive, they have no emotion, and they don't decide what something is worth to the user. </p><p><br /></p><p>They only do what they are told to do. Whether ll the bids occur in the last 5 seconds or over the course of a week is irrelevant, they are still user dictated bids and the only way the bid goes up is if someone else pushes it up. </p><p><br /></p><p>In actuality sniping programs actually make things go for less then they would have, manual bidders don't have time to react to them that may have been willing to go higher. Putting in a max bid too early leaves options open for people to fish for what it is if they really want to which is not a practice that I approve of but it does happen. </p><p><br /></p><p>The reason why places ban and actively try and block sniping programs is they make house bids much harder to maximize the price. Instead of the maximum bid being stored in the system it is off site and hidden from everything but the program, it also takes away the ability for two people to keep maximizing the price unless someone else had the program </p><p><br /></p><p>There is nothing to fear or even complain about those programs. Put in a max bid with 4-8 seconds left and let the chips fall where they may. The program won't do anything that the other bidder wouldn't have done anyway with putting in their max bid near the end. The only difference is someone doesn't have the time to counter back with the snipe program. If an auction ends and someone thinks they wished they had bid a little more then their max bid should have reflected that in the first place. Really it is no different then having an automated agent placing bids on your behalf.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 2742473, member: 76863"]That by definition is their maximum bid and no different than what happens at auction houses. Bids only go as high as a person goes, if they bid it that is their max or below their max, nowhere can make someone bid above what they agree too. As for the story you told about the coin going for two much, obviously two people didn't think so since it takes two to get bids to the level it got to. Regardless in no way is that eBay's fault nor a poor reflection on them or a sniping program. The bidder set the bid and if they tried to back out of it at an auction house there would be consequences. That isn't the sniping programs that is the bidders. The programs only do what they are told to do. They programs aren't competing against each other they are bidding up to the maximum the user told them to bid too. The programs aren't Skynet, they don't get competitive, they have no emotion, and they don't decide what something is worth to the user. They only do what they are told to do. Whether ll the bids occur in the last 5 seconds or over the course of a week is irrelevant, they are still user dictated bids and the only way the bid goes up is if someone else pushes it up. In actuality sniping programs actually make things go for less then they would have, manual bidders don't have time to react to them that may have been willing to go higher. Putting in a max bid too early leaves options open for people to fish for what it is if they really want to which is not a practice that I approve of but it does happen. The reason why places ban and actively try and block sniping programs is they make house bids much harder to maximize the price. Instead of the maximum bid being stored in the system it is off site and hidden from everything but the program, it also takes away the ability for two people to keep maximizing the price unless someone else had the program There is nothing to fear or even complain about those programs. Put in a max bid with 4-8 seconds left and let the chips fall where they may. The program won't do anything that the other bidder wouldn't have done anyway with putting in their max bid near the end. The only difference is someone doesn't have the time to counter back with the snipe program. If an auction ends and someone thinks they wished they had bid a little more then their max bid should have reflected that in the first place. Really it is no different then having an automated agent placing bids on your behalf.[/QUOTE]
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