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Message:: [QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1383070, member: 27832"]I've shown examples of people using "sniping" to include manual activity from the very beginning -- from the first time, back in 1997, that people started using the term in the context of eBay. If it helps, I can also point to eBay's own definition: <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Foutbid.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Foutbid.html" rel="nofollow">Getting outbid</a> Not a word about "using software" or "using a service" to place the bid. You use the term "sniping" to mean "using automation to place a last-minute bid", and you say that "manual sniping" is a contradiction. The rest of the world says that "sniping" means "placing a last-minute bid", and uses the terms "automatic sniping" and "manual sniping" to distinguish the two cases. It's really not a big deal, and I'm sure we're putting everyone else to sleep by now. But I'm powerless to stop. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]