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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1382971, member: 19065"]What's wrong with it is that there is a difference in terminology and clearly people of this thread have not adjusted their concept of the term/phrase 'bid sniping' to only apply to the highest bid placed in a fraction of time no others may manually outbid that "bid sniper". This is all due to the prescience of automated services that can bid snipe in the time where humans cannot do so manually. </p><p><br /></p><p>Any other bidding activity in the amount of time a human <i>can </i>respond to bids is simply bidding, not 'bid sniping'.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, the OPs question was ambiguous and that has left this open for debate. He hadn't defined bid sniping to allow manual bidding as a form of bid sniping, nor should it be included per my argument, and to do so now would be a cop out for understanding the stated differences between manual bidding and bid sniping. The thread has turned into one of interpretation, some opinion and not much clarity for the level of resistance a couple of dissenting voices have met. Obviously, I am currently in the minority against a typical forum mob bound by group think unable to change it's collective perspective over what this term means, but this problem doesn't prove me wrong as no rebuttals refute that a human can outperform the next highest bid placed by an automated service in the last second of available bidding time in any given auction. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's not really down to one second or smaller milliseconds of time. Which ever highest bids are simultaneously placed in the the very last second on the clock are equally assessed and cataloged in the bid history, with the high bid going on top. One only need to look back at bid history times to see where "bid sniping" occurred and in what amounts. When these bids are the highest, bid sniping has been successful. Where an earlier than one-second from the end bid was placed, those manual bidders have beaten all 'bid sniping' attempts, however, the manual bidders are not 'bid snipers'.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is not a matter of opinion, and where it one, no opinion would be more correct than another. There is however a difference in terminology that needs to be understood and how it may be applied in the context we are discussing. Manual bidding vs. bid sniping (automated). As I have tried to illustrate manual bidders cannot bid snipe, because they cannot do so (react) in the time available to correct being outbid when a new bid was placed (bid sniped), via automated services. I am not saying manual bidders cannot beat a bid sniper, only that manual bidders are not bid snipers, they are high bidders. The bid sniper is the one placing that last second bid to outbid the current high bid in an opportune and vulnerable time frame where manual bidding cannot function.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1382971, member: 19065"]What's wrong with it is that there is a difference in terminology and clearly people of this thread have not adjusted their concept of the term/phrase 'bid sniping' to only apply to the highest bid placed in a fraction of time no others may manually outbid that "bid sniper". This is all due to the prescience of automated services that can bid snipe in the time where humans cannot do so manually. Any other bidding activity in the amount of time a human [I]can [/I]respond to bids is simply bidding, not 'bid sniping'. Furthermore, the OPs question was ambiguous and that has left this open for debate. He hadn't defined bid sniping to allow manual bidding as a form of bid sniping, nor should it be included per my argument, and to do so now would be a cop out for understanding the stated differences between manual bidding and bid sniping. The thread has turned into one of interpretation, some opinion and not much clarity for the level of resistance a couple of dissenting voices have met. Obviously, I am currently in the minority against a typical forum mob bound by group think unable to change it's collective perspective over what this term means, but this problem doesn't prove me wrong as no rebuttals refute that a human can outperform the next highest bid placed by an automated service in the last second of available bidding time in any given auction. It's not really down to one second or smaller milliseconds of time. Which ever highest bids are simultaneously placed in the the very last second on the clock are equally assessed and cataloged in the bid history, with the high bid going on top. One only need to look back at bid history times to see where "bid sniping" occurred and in what amounts. When these bids are the highest, bid sniping has been successful. Where an earlier than one-second from the end bid was placed, those manual bidders have beaten all 'bid sniping' attempts, however, the manual bidders are not 'bid snipers'. This is not a matter of opinion, and where it one, no opinion would be more correct than another. There is however a difference in terminology that needs to be understood and how it may be applied in the context we are discussing. Manual bidding vs. bid sniping (automated). As I have tried to illustrate manual bidders cannot bid snipe, because they cannot do so (react) in the time available to correct being outbid when a new bid was placed (bid sniped), via automated services. I am not saying manual bidders cannot beat a bid sniper, only that manual bidders are not bid snipers, they are high bidders. The bid sniper is the one placing that last second bid to outbid the current high bid in an opportune and vulnerable time frame where manual bidding cannot function.[/QUOTE]
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