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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;krispy, post: 1382493, member: 19065&quot;]If you want to disclaim something then you also need to show us the facts that disprove what you claim to know. </p><p><br /></p><p>We are not talking about just one word, &quot;sniping&quot; as you quoted but a concept in the word pair, &quot;bid sniping&quot; and how it is applied to auction bidding, particularly online bidding. Of course the word <i>sniping</i> is much older and it means <i>to shoot from a hidden place</i>. In bid sniping you can only hope your bid snipe is greater than another bid sniper&#039;s bid or that a manual bidder hasn&#039;t placed a higher manual bid that can still out bid an automated bid snipe. That is all it is, a higher bid that beats a bid snipe. No &quot;manual&quot; bidder can beat the clock when a higher bid snipe is placed because there simply is not enough time left to place your next bid, get confirmation your increment was high enough and be asked to confirm your next bid. It all takes longer than one second to complete that task manually.</p><p><br /></p><p>Before there was software to bid snipe, there were relentless and expensive bidding wars in online auctions.&nbsp; A lot of people overpaid for things and the others lost a lot of things that shouldn&#039;t have been run up in price so high. It was all manual bidding. No one &quot;sniped&quot; anything. Some people claim they don&#039;t use sniping software, but that only means they are regular manual bidders. </p><p><br /></p><p>In the past bidders had to be present and actively (manually) placing bids in live auctions. It was the same on eBay before bid snipe software. A bidder could only place a bid as each increment increased until the time was up. With the advent of bid snipe software, humans can no longer place bids fast enough in the miniscule interval of time between the last second and zero time in the way software now enables bidding, hence you have &quot;bid sniping&quot;. </p><p><br /></p><p>Many years ago as you put it, that is, nearer to the beginnings of eBay, when bidding was done MANUALLY (you said yourself, &quot;ONLY by people&quot;, hence bidding, not bid sniping), in those early days, bidding wars occurred regularly between people particularly when internet connections were far more unreliable and slower (think dial-up vs. T3 at the time) people routinely bid frantically in the last minutes against unseen other humans present at their own computers elsewhere, and waited for pages to reload to see if they could bid again and not loose before the time was up. Bid snipe software helped to eliminate the annoyance slow internet connections and the expense of bidding wars or missing a final chance to bid.&nbsp; It also created several benefits of convenience. Bid snipe software in effect created a time frame in the final second that didn&#039;t exist before. It was a space where live humans manually bidding could not operate, and this increased those bidders who choose to use bid sniping service, have better odds at winning. The same principal of needing a high bid remained, but it helped to eliminate anyone trying to outbid in the last moments manually or who tried to place the lowest bid early on by bidding far in advance.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyone who thinks they have successfully bid sniped <i>manually</i> simply do not understand what they have done in this scenario. They have merely beat a bid sniper with a higher manual bid due to a higher increment than the bid sniping attempt set their high bid amount at. While it may appear you have beaten them in the final second of an auction, in reality, your earlier than the final second bid was simply manually placed at a much higher increment to win the auction. That&#039;s not sniping anything, that&#039;s a winning bid. If you have beat a bid sniper, you have only done so manually, not via a snipe because you cannot cannot cannot insert a new bid and confirm that last new bid faster than a new bid from a bid sniper can be placed.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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