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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vess1, post: 2129612, member: 13650&quot;]This is non-sense.&nbsp; As I posted several pages ago, we&#039;re not comparing apples to apples again.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>I will agree that strictly &quot;toned&quot; coins are not rare.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp; If we&#039;re only looking at that aspect, you are correct.&nbsp; &nbsp; The toning on the coins in all of those illustrated photos is nice but common and not spectacular.&nbsp;&nbsp; It gives them character but I don&#039;t believe the toning on most of them would, in itself, be a primary driving factor in affecting their prices.&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps some.&nbsp; &nbsp; But not like the 1881-S Lehigh posted above.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This is two COMPLETELY different topics.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; I own several slabbed, toned Morgans.&nbsp; A few I&#039;m very fond of that I got from Lehigh.&nbsp; I don&#039;t believe they were created in a lab, or could be re-created in any way.&nbsp; Much less by simply putting them in envelopes or tissues for a while.&nbsp; &nbsp; I have some Morgans that were stored in a box wrapped in tissues for decades.&nbsp;&nbsp; They&#039;re just black.&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, I agree you CAN tone anything but what do you end up with?&nbsp;&nbsp; Can you control what you end up with?&nbsp; Or will it look like every other AT example? </p><p>&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Some colors are very unique and rarely occurring.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It leads me to believe the only way this happens is <u><b>unique, unknown, environmental factors and time </b></u> that create the truly outstanding examples which are rarely seen.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; Somehow these are getting lumped into the same discussion with every other toned coin out there by people who don&#039;t collect them.&nbsp; Quite possibly they don&#039;t even fully realize what is available because they are <u><b>*rare*</b></u> and they aren&#039;t looking for them.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; One of mine features an entire obverse that is a beautiful mint green with some yellows.&nbsp; No, pinks no blues, no purple.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;ve never seen a Morgan like it before or since.&nbsp;&nbsp; My Battle creek&#039;s reverse is entirely a plum color with dark blues on the edges and fine neon green around the devices with full luster.&nbsp;&nbsp; The obverse isn&#039;t affected at all.&nbsp; Why/how did this one go that route?&nbsp; Why isn&#039;t it rainbow toned?&nbsp; Why isn&#039;t it mint green too?&nbsp; Why not yellow and red?&nbsp; Why does it have neon greens around the edge of devices?&nbsp; &nbsp; Another feature I&quot;ve never seen before or since.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Another I have that is very rare, with similar plum toning does not exhibit these neon green outlines.&nbsp; &nbsp; They weren&#039;t all the same within the same bags at the same location for the same period of time!&nbsp;&nbsp; Specific types are RARE.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; So some here think you can re-produce these exact affects on a whim by throwing it in an envelope or wrapping it in a tissue?&nbsp;&nbsp; Why don&#039;t I just throw a batch of them in a burlap bag and store them in my basement?&nbsp; &nbsp; Why isn&#039;t everyone else doing it if it guarantees a spectacularly toned hoard that would sell for a premium?&nbsp;&nbsp; If it happens so easily and fast?&nbsp; &nbsp; Why was the battle creek hoard unique?&nbsp; The same thing should&#039;ve happened with all Morgans that sat around in burlap bags for decades. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; I wish some people would at least give Lehigh SOME credit as to understanding the toned market, being someone who has been actively engaged in it for over a decade.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; There is for whatever reason, some level of contempt and disbelief, towards rarer, high end toners, and we continue wasting time comparing apples to oranges.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; Lets try to look at this from a learning stand point more-so than as a personal attack.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;m sure some feel they have nothing left to learn, but there may be hope for others reading through.&nbsp; &nbsp; This thread needs more reading, less posting.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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