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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2129362, member: 15309"]I agree, but we are not talking about toned coins. We are talking about rainbow toned coins, which are not common.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This conversation is about certified rainbow toned coins and has nothing to do with the average joe collecting circulated coinage. The math already provided shows that within the certified coins on E-Bay, the population of rainbow toned coins is <1%.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>He is wrong, we already proved that. The whole auctions he was referring to were not full of "magnificently toned" coins. Did you see my post about what qualified for the rainbow tag at Teletrade? Did you see that even in their own description of their rainbow only auctions that they admit that not every coin is rainbow toned?</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, the auctions that you showed barely have any rainbow toned coins. I see no more than a handful of rainbow toned coins in all your examples.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The reason there is no mention of "rainbow awesomeness," because it doesn't exist. Again, very few of the coins you posted have rainbow toning and none of the coins you posted have anything to do with the subject of this thread. This thread is about "rainbow toned" coins that drive significant price premiums and the recreation of said coins via artificial toning. The auctions you showed are of ultra rarities with huge numismatic value. The only reason someone would AT one of those coins is to hide imperfections to achieve a higher grade. It is exceedingly rare to find a rare valuable coin that was artificially toned in order to boost value based on eye appeal. If you can find an example, I would be impressed. For purposes of the argument, the coin must be over $1K in an untoned state.</p><p><br /></p><p>We are not saying that toned coins are a small % of ALL coins minted. We are not even saying that toned coins are a small % of ALL coins extant. We are saying that rainbow toned coins represent <1% of certified coins. Furthermore, the coins we are talking about are in the MS range, because typically, circulated coins are not toned. So when you say <span style="color: #ff0000">"look at the toned specimens in relation to say the surviving pieces of a series in AU-55 or higher where this toning is likely to occur AND now in the arena of collectors who are even looking for higher end pieces,"</span> that is where we have been looking the entire time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2129362, member: 15309"]I agree, but we are not talking about toned coins. We are talking about rainbow toned coins, which are not common. This conversation is about certified rainbow toned coins and has nothing to do with the average joe collecting circulated coinage. The math already provided shows that within the certified coins on E-Bay, the population of rainbow toned coins is <1%. He is wrong, we already proved that. The whole auctions he was referring to were not full of "magnificently toned" coins. Did you see my post about what qualified for the rainbow tag at Teletrade? Did you see that even in their own description of their rainbow only auctions that they admit that not every coin is rainbow toned? Furthermore, the auctions that you showed barely have any rainbow toned coins. I see no more than a handful of rainbow toned coins in all your examples. The reason there is no mention of "rainbow awesomeness," because it doesn't exist. Again, very few of the coins you posted have rainbow toning and none of the coins you posted have anything to do with the subject of this thread. This thread is about "rainbow toned" coins that drive significant price premiums and the recreation of said coins via artificial toning. The auctions you showed are of ultra rarities with huge numismatic value. The only reason someone would AT one of those coins is to hide imperfections to achieve a higher grade. It is exceedingly rare to find a rare valuable coin that was artificially toned in order to boost value based on eye appeal. If you can find an example, I would be impressed. For purposes of the argument, the coin must be over $1K in an untoned state. We are not saying that toned coins are a small % of ALL coins minted. We are not even saying that toned coins are a small % of ALL coins extant. We are saying that rainbow toned coins represent <1% of certified coins. Furthermore, the coins we are talking about are in the MS range, because typically, circulated coins are not toned. So when you say [COLOR=#ff0000]"look at the toned specimens in relation to say the surviving pieces of a series in AU-55 or higher where this toning is likely to occur AND now in the arena of collectors who are even looking for higher end pieces,"[/COLOR] that is where we have been looking the entire time.[/QUOTE]
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