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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2128703, member: 15309"]Ok guys, here is a Teletrade tutorial. Since Doug thinks he is the only one with access to the way back machine, he showed you what he wanted you to see. I will show you what he doesn't want you to see. The date is March 21st, 2009 and this is the Teletrade homepage.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Homepage%201_zpsjzgxwpgj.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you scroll down you see this:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Homepage%202_zpsgrmuahwa.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you look at the right hand column, you will see a box pertaining to rainbow toned coins. If you click on the line that says "more information", it will bring you to one of the screens that Doug showed us.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Rainbow%20Designation_zpszjd1wztf.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now here is where it gets interesting. Right in the middle of the page, it says to call Ian Russell to consign to their upcoming Rainbow Event and underneath it shows to examples of rainbow toned coin listings. The first is a 1962 NGC PR67 Roosevelt Dime in auction 2662. At the bottom of the screen you can see "Auction 2662." And if you scroll down you see this.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Auction%202662%20Rainbow_zpsfb3hqtcp.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>At first glance, it appears that Doug is correct. Look, every single coin listed has the rainbow tag! But upon closer examination, the truth is revealed. Look at the lot numbers. There are lot numbers missing, omg! Did Teletrade have a unique lot numbering system that did not use sequential numbers? Nope, they just wanted to show you all the rainbow toned coins from that auction. If you actually browse the auction 2662 this is what you will find:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Auction%202662%20Page1_zpsdyf7lsjz.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Auction%202662%20Small%20Cents_zpspisojcyj.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>All of the lot numbers are sequential and accounted for. Some of the listings on the front page have tags for TONED and OLD SLAB but none have the RAINBOW tag. Unfortunately, the way back machine does not have every page of the auction, just the first page. But you get the idea. Teletrade used the RAINBOW tag to help customers easily identify which coins were RAINBOW toned. They used these tags for a wide assortment of things. So why would they have a picture of a coin that was listed in an auction that had both RAINBOW toned coins and untoned coins directly underneath the advertisement box to get you to consign to their RAINBOW event? Why wouldn't they show a coin that was in a RAINBOW only auction? You can draw your own conclusion.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for me, I don't remember ever seeing a RAINBOW only auction at teletrade. I remember 4 auctions per week with coins spanning every denomination and series and RAINBOW tags that allowed for easy identification of rainbow toned coins. And I remember buying coins from Teletrade, some with color, some without! EG:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201938-S%20PCGS%20MS66_zpsq1joot2r.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/TT%20JN%201938-S%20PCGS%20MS66%20Holder_zpsqn8acjt3.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201941-S%20NGC%20MS67_zpswjgvyscz.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/TT%20JN%201941-S%20NGC%20MS67%20Holder_zpsik9k74rz.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201950%20NGC%20MS66%205FS_zpsxkmek3g7.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201950%20NGC%20MS66%205FS%20TTSLAB_zpsoko1dgtt.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201954-D%20NGC%20MS66_zps3qmflrwo.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201954-D%20NGC%20MS66%20TTSLAB_zps53h16cxx.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Just thought I would show you guys that I actually used Teletrade![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2128703, member: 15309"]Ok guys, here is a Teletrade tutorial. Since Doug thinks he is the only one with access to the way back machine, he showed you what he wanted you to see. I will show you what he doesn't want you to see. The date is March 21st, 2009 and this is the Teletrade homepage. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Homepage%201_zpsjzgxwpgj.png[/IMG] If you scroll down you see this: [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Homepage%202_zpsgrmuahwa.png[/IMG] If you look at the right hand column, you will see a box pertaining to rainbow toned coins. If you click on the line that says "more information", it will bring you to one of the screens that Doug showed us. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Rainbow%20Designation_zpszjd1wztf.png[/IMG] Now here is where it gets interesting. Right in the middle of the page, it says to call Ian Russell to consign to their upcoming Rainbow Event and underneath it shows to examples of rainbow toned coin listings. The first is a 1962 NGC PR67 Roosevelt Dime in auction 2662. At the bottom of the screen you can see "Auction 2662." And if you scroll down you see this. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Auction%202662%20Rainbow_zpsfb3hqtcp.png[/IMG] At first glance, it appears that Doug is correct. Look, every single coin listed has the rainbow tag! But upon closer examination, the truth is revealed. Look at the lot numbers. There are lot numbers missing, omg! Did Teletrade have a unique lot numbering system that did not use sequential numbers? Nope, they just wanted to show you all the rainbow toned coins from that auction. If you actually browse the auction 2662 this is what you will find: [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Auction%202662%20Page1_zpsdyf7lsjz.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Doug%20Cointalk/Teletrade%20Auction%202662%20Small%20Cents_zpspisojcyj.png[/IMG] All of the lot numbers are sequential and accounted for. Some of the listings on the front page have tags for TONED and OLD SLAB but none have the RAINBOW tag. Unfortunately, the way back machine does not have every page of the auction, just the first page. But you get the idea. Teletrade used the RAINBOW tag to help customers easily identify which coins were RAINBOW toned. They used these tags for a wide assortment of things. So why would they have a picture of a coin that was listed in an auction that had both RAINBOW toned coins and untoned coins directly underneath the advertisement box to get you to consign to their RAINBOW event? Why wouldn't they show a coin that was in a RAINBOW only auction? You can draw your own conclusion. As for me, I don't remember ever seeing a RAINBOW only auction at teletrade. I remember 4 auctions per week with coins spanning every denomination and series and RAINBOW tags that allowed for easy identification of rainbow toned coins. And I remember buying coins from Teletrade, some with color, some without! EG: [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201938-S%20PCGS%20MS66_zpsq1joot2r.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/TT%20JN%201938-S%20PCGS%20MS66%20Holder_zpsqn8acjt3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201941-S%20NGC%20MS67_zpswjgvyscz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/TT%20JN%201941-S%20NGC%20MS67%20Holder_zpsik9k74rz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201950%20NGC%20MS66%205FS_zpsxkmek3g7.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201950%20NGC%20MS66%205FS%20TTSLAB_zpsoko1dgtt.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201954-D%20NGC%20MS66_zps3qmflrwo.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Teletrade%20Coins/JN%201954-D%20NGC%20MS66%20TTSLAB_zps53h16cxx.jpg[/IMG] Just thought I would show you guys that I actually used Teletrade![/QUOTE]
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