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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;V. Kurt Bellman, post: 2125628, member: 71723&quot;]Lehigh,</p><p><br /></p><p>I know why <i>I personally </i>feel it is entirely appropriate to deduct grading points for ugly tobacco spit toning, but some people don&#039;t agree with me and quite frankly should. I know a little something about &quot;dipping&quot; that many people will dispute, but I am correct. &quot;Dipping&quot;, done correctly damages <i><b>zero </b></i>metal, ... none. Let me restate here that I have never used, bought, held, wanted, or even <i><b>seen </b></i>a bottle of EZest except in an ad. I use my own formula, adapted from an Eastman Kodak Company formula (not an off-the-shelf product) used to &quot;de-stain&quot; textiles used in a photographic darkroom. Now, I state here <i><b>categorically </b></i>that no coin I&#039;ve ever dipped ever had its luster impaired by that dip. Any impaired luster was already there, done by the toning itself, and the dip merely revealed the damage that was already put there <b><i>by the toning process in the first place!!!</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p>How do I know this? Another Eastman Kodak trick. I have a stash of silver content test papers used to determine if a fixing bath is exhausted. No matter how many silver coins I dip, for however long I want, that &quot;dip&quot; contains no sign of silver whatsoever. What it <i><b>will contain </b></i>is a fairly significant precipitate of pure yellow sulfur, and a distinctive whiff of hydrogen sulfide. I have removed some sulfur and left every atom of silver behind, still on the coin. The luster is exactly what the luster was, before the dip. Nothing more, nothing less.</p><p><br /></p><p>So for you to suggest that a heavily tobacco spit toned coin should <i><b>not be down scored </b></i>if it&#039;s luster is still all there, strikes me as a nonsense sentence. If it had toned to brownish black, its luster is already likely shot. The bride&#039;s veil merely obscures the zits or crow&#039;s feet. They&#039;re still there.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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