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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2125505, member: 15309"]Kurt, there is a method to the TPG madness. I have told you that TPGs don't penalize for ugly toning unless it affects luster. The reason they treat it neutrally is because they don't want to decide what is or isn't ugly. In essence, they think there is more subjectivity involved in calling something ugly than calling something beautiful. Despite what some people think, the number of times that a coin actually gets a grade bump for exceptional eye appeal is actually very rare. Most toned coins, including rainbow toned coins, don't get grade bumps for eye appeal. In the cases where they do, the TPGs rely on the probability that just about everybody who views that coin will acknowledge that the coin is beautiful.</p><p><br /></p><p>You have a very good idea of what you think constitutes ugly. But there is no way that the TPGs can decide what is ugly without people disagreeing with them, so they don't do it. In addition, eye appeal is typically tied to luster. Have you ever seen a toned coin with muted luster? The eye appeal is nowhere near that of a rainbow toned coin that has blazing luster. It is the combination of color and luster that gives vibrancy to the color and results in exceptional eye appeal. It is the difference between this coin (NGC MS63):</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars%204%20Sale/MD1886NGCMS63.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>and this coin (Battle Creek NGC MS64*):</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars/MorganDollar1886NGCMS64StarBattleCr.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>In the end, I think the best example I can show you about why the TPGs should not penalize for ugly is a Cointalk thread that I started in 2008. Please read this thread and note the wide range of reactions to the same coin, ENJOY!</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-uniquely-toned-peace-dollar-in-auction.42113/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-uniquely-toned-peace-dollar-in-auction.42113/">A Uniquely Toned Peace Dollar in Auction</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2125505, member: 15309"]Kurt, there is a method to the TPG madness. I have told you that TPGs don't penalize for ugly toning unless it affects luster. The reason they treat it neutrally is because they don't want to decide what is or isn't ugly. In essence, they think there is more subjectivity involved in calling something ugly than calling something beautiful. Despite what some people think, the number of times that a coin actually gets a grade bump for exceptional eye appeal is actually very rare. Most toned coins, including rainbow toned coins, don't get grade bumps for eye appeal. In the cases where they do, the TPGs rely on the probability that just about everybody who views that coin will acknowledge that the coin is beautiful. You have a very good idea of what you think constitutes ugly. But there is no way that the TPGs can decide what is ugly without people disagreeing with them, so they don't do it. In addition, eye appeal is typically tied to luster. Have you ever seen a toned coin with muted luster? The eye appeal is nowhere near that of a rainbow toned coin that has blazing luster. It is the combination of color and luster that gives vibrancy to the color and results in exceptional eye appeal. It is the difference between this coin (NGC MS63): [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars%204%20Sale/MD1886NGCMS63.jpg[/IMG] and this coin (Battle Creek NGC MS64*): [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars/MorganDollar1886NGCMS64StarBattleCr.jpg[/IMG] In the end, I think the best example I can show you about why the TPGs should not penalize for ugly is a Cointalk thread that I started in 2008. Please read this thread and note the wide range of reactions to the same coin, ENJOY! [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-uniquely-toned-peace-dollar-in-auction.42113/']A Uniquely Toned Peace Dollar in Auction[/URL][/QUOTE]
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