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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2121059, member: 15309"]Kurt, I'm afraid if I do the looking, you are going to tell me I'm looking in the wrong place. This is like an Easter egg hunt. There are plenty, and I mean plenty of rainbow toned Mercury and Roosevelt Dimes. So many in fact, that I find it hard to believe that mottled brown toned examples will drive a significant toning premium. If you say they exist, then you are gonna have to show them to me, I won't look for a needle in an haystack. Washington Quarters are a little more rare with colorful toning, but they are out there as well. And in my experience, Washingtons are one of the slowest series in existence. I can't sell a Washie to save my life. The series that are tough to find with any appreciable rainbow toning are Walkers, Peace Dollars, and SLQs. Since you said Quarters, I will search PCGS graded SLQs. I will list the first five mint state deeply toned examples I find in the HA archives and examine the premiums.</p><p><br /></p><p>SLQ #1: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1929-25c-ms64-full-head-pcgs-pcgs-population-486-432-ngc-census-322-215-mintage-11-140-000-numismedia-wsl-price/a/131512-27277.s" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1929-25c-ms64-full-head-pcgs-pcgs-population-486-432-ngc-census-322-215-mintage-11-140-000-numismedia-wsl-price/a/131512-27277.s" rel="nofollow">1929 25C MS64 Full Head PCGS</a> $399.50 = No Premium</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F4%2F1%2F5%2F12415492%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F4%2F1%2F5%2F12415493%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>SLQ #2: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1923-25c-ms67-pcgs-cac/a/1218-3673.s" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1923-25c-ms67-pcgs-cac/a/1218-3673.s" rel="nofollow">1923 25C MS67 PCGS. CAC</a> $2,350 The premium over previous coins is $800-$900 but they were sold 2 years earlier.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F3%2F2%2F7%2F12327083%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F3%2F2%2F7%2F12327084%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>SLQ #3: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1927-25c-ms64-pcgs-pcgs-population-271-119-ngc-census-210-107-mintage-11-912-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/131506-23285.s" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1927-25c-ms64-pcgs-pcgs-population-271-119-ngc-census-210-107-mintage-11-912-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/131506-23285.s" rel="nofollow">1927 25C MS64 PCGS</a> $235 Sold at discount price due to poor eye appeal.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F8%2F2%2F12282872%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F8%2F2%2F12282873%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>SLQ #4: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1920-25c-ms66-pcgs-pcgs-population-59-15-ngc-census-70-17-mintage-27-860-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fr/a/1217-7374.s" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1920-25c-ms66-pcgs-pcgs-population-59-15-ngc-census-70-17-mintage-27-860-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fr/a/1217-7374.s" rel="nofollow">1920 25C MS66 PCGS</a> $552.25 NGC Wholesale is $710, PCGS Guide is $900</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F2%2F9%2F12229679%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F2%2F9%2F12229680%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>SLQ #5: <a href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1923-s-25c-ms65-pcgs/a/1217-3789.s" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1923-s-25c-ms65-pcgs/a/1217-3789.s" rel="nofollow">1923-S 25C MS65 PCGS</a> $3,055 This is the lowest price achieved by a 1923-S PCGS MS65 SLQ on HA since 2005.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F1%2F3%2F12213159%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F1%2F3%2F12213160%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The first five toned SLQs in the HA archives don't seem to show any lunacy on the part of the buyers of these coins. In fact, if anything, the prices of these coins with mottled brown toning are on the low end of the scale. Now Kurt, I have been very patient. Typically when you make a statement, it is incumbent upon you to back up your own statement. The only other person who gets away with "they are out there, go find them" is Doug. Well, I looked, and I didn't find them. So if you want us to believe that people are paying premiums for coins with mottled brown toning, you are gonna have to show them to us![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2121059, member: 15309"]Kurt, I'm afraid if I do the looking, you are going to tell me I'm looking in the wrong place. This is like an Easter egg hunt. There are plenty, and I mean plenty of rainbow toned Mercury and Roosevelt Dimes. So many in fact, that I find it hard to believe that mottled brown toned examples will drive a significant toning premium. If you say they exist, then you are gonna have to show them to me, I won't look for a needle in an haystack. Washington Quarters are a little more rare with colorful toning, but they are out there as well. And in my experience, Washingtons are one of the slowest series in existence. I can't sell a Washie to save my life. The series that are tough to find with any appreciable rainbow toning are Walkers, Peace Dollars, and SLQs. Since you said Quarters, I will search PCGS graded SLQs. I will list the first five mint state deeply toned examples I find in the HA archives and examine the premiums. SLQ #1: [URL='http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1929-25c-ms64-full-head-pcgs-pcgs-population-486-432-ngc-census-322-215-mintage-11-140-000-numismedia-wsl-price/a/131512-27277.s']1929 25C MS64 Full Head PCGS[/URL] $399.50 = No Premium [img]http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F4%2F1%2F5%2F12415492%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img][img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F4%2F1%2F5%2F12415493%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] SLQ #2: [url=http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1923-25c-ms67-pcgs-cac/a/1218-3673.s]1923 25C MS67 PCGS. CAC[/url] $2,350 The premium over previous coins is $800-$900 but they were sold 2 years earlier. [img]http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F3%2F2%2F7%2F12327083%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img][img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F3%2F2%2F7%2F12327084%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] SLQ #3: [url=http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1927-25c-ms64-pcgs-pcgs-population-271-119-ngc-census-210-107-mintage-11-912-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-proble/a/131506-23285.s]1927 25C MS64 PCGS[/url] $235 Sold at discount price due to poor eye appeal. [img]http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F8%2F2%2F12282872%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img][img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F8%2F2%2F12282873%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] SLQ #4: [url=http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1920-25c-ms66-pcgs-pcgs-population-59-15-ngc-census-70-17-mintage-27-860-000-numismedia-wsl-price-for-problem-fr/a/1217-7374.s]1920 25C MS66 PCGS[/url] $552.25 NGC Wholesale is $710, PCGS Guide is $900 [img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F2%2F9%2F12229679%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img][img]http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F2%2F9%2F12229680%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] SLQ #5: [url=http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-liberty-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1923-s-25c-ms65-pcgs/a/1217-3789.s]1923-S 25C MS65 PCGS[/url] $3,055 This is the lowest price achieved by a 1923-S PCGS MS65 SLQ on HA since 2005. [img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F1%2F3%2F12213159%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img][img]http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F2%2F1%2F3%2F12213160%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] The first five toned SLQs in the HA archives don't seem to show any lunacy on the part of the buyers of these coins. In fact, if anything, the prices of these coins with mottled brown toning are on the low end of the scale. Now Kurt, I have been very patient. Typically when you make a statement, it is incumbent upon you to back up your own statement. The only other person who gets away with "they are out there, go find them" is Doug. Well, I looked, and I didn't find them. So if you want us to believe that people are paying premiums for coins with mottled brown toning, you are gonna have to show them to us![/QUOTE]
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