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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2120812, member: 15309"]Kurt, nobody is paying a premium for brown splotches. The fact is that most toned coins (both AT & NT) carry absolutely no premium at all. Coins with brown splotches (mottled) toning can usually be purchased at a discount. Whether you agree with it or not, eye appeal is a factor in grading in our current system (market grading). The only coins that drive huge premiums are those that have exceptional eye appeal. And despite the baseless claims made by some of the people in this thread, they are not easy to reproduce and they are indeed, RARE!</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you really think that these two coins should be valued the same?</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Picture050.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F8%2F2%2F4%2F11824970%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It seems that all of you guys who disagree with the applied standards with relation to toning also have a problem with the TPG standards (market grading) in general. And almost all of you wish that the ANA standards ruled the day. But guess what, you guys will still be unhappy even if you had your way. Coin grading is subjective by nature no matter which standards you use, and the results will always include a certain level of inconsistency.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, your shot at hall is misguided. The TPGs have been grading toned coins long before they drove ridiculous premiums like they do now (eg the rattler Morgan shown in this thread). The premiums related to toned coins is a natural result of supply and demand. The advances of digital photography and the expansion of the internet brought increased the exposure of rainbow toned coins dramatically. No longer relegated to the back rooms of the coin shop, now they were on full display for the world to see. Huge numbers of collectors saw them and said "I want that." The supply was unchanged while the demand boomed, thus toning premiums were born. The only thing the TPGs control is to decide which coins are market acceptable and which are not. But I don't see any difference between that subjective decision and the decision as to what grade is on the label.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2120812, member: 15309"]Kurt, nobody is paying a premium for brown splotches. The fact is that most toned coins (both AT & NT) carry absolutely no premium at all. Coins with brown splotches (mottled) toning can usually be purchased at a discount. Whether you agree with it or not, eye appeal is a factor in grading in our current system (market grading). The only coins that drive huge premiums are those that have exceptional eye appeal. And despite the baseless claims made by some of the people in this thread, they are not easy to reproduce and they are indeed, RARE! Do you really think that these two coins should be valued the same? [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Picture050.jpg[/IMG] [img]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F8%2F2%2F4%2F11824970%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] It seems that all of you guys who disagree with the applied standards with relation to toning also have a problem with the TPG standards (market grading) in general. And almost all of you wish that the ANA standards ruled the day. But guess what, you guys will still be unhappy even if you had your way. Coin grading is subjective by nature no matter which standards you use, and the results will always include a certain level of inconsistency. Furthermore, your shot at hall is misguided. The TPGs have been grading toned coins long before they drove ridiculous premiums like they do now (eg the rattler Morgan shown in this thread). The premiums related to toned coins is a natural result of supply and demand. The advances of digital photography and the expansion of the internet brought increased the exposure of rainbow toned coins dramatically. No longer relegated to the back rooms of the coin shop, now they were on full display for the world to see. Huge numbers of collectors saw them and said "I want that." The supply was unchanged while the demand boomed, thus toning premiums were born. The only thing the TPGs control is to decide which coins are market acceptable and which are not. But I don't see any difference between that subjective decision and the decision as to what grade is on the label.[/QUOTE]
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