Beware of rainbow toning

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by merrill01, Mar 27, 2015.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's really horrible. Clear as day that the toning is only around the gaps in the gasket -- but even if it weren't obviously post-slabbing AT, it's flat-out ugly.
     
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Did that thread go poof?
     
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Not poof but its back down to under a page again and some pictures are missing. Unless there were two and I'm looking at the wrong one
     
  5. ddddd

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  6. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I saw this on a PCGS forum thread. There is another thread where someone also found some examples, but that one requires you to register in order to see the content. The way they did it was looking through the seller's feedback for items they bought and then finding those completed listings.

    The particular example I shared shows up as the first two pictures when Google Image searching

    https://www.google.com/search?q=edy...ved=0ahUKEwidm8DMrqHRAhWMy4MKHbLmA5cQ_AUICigE
     
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  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    If that is not the clearest-possible proof that modern slabs are not air tight, I don't know what is.
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I thought that was pretty universally understood, but I suppose we still get questions about it here.

    The more interesting question, to my mind: what kind of results can a coin doctor produce with this technique if he isn't ham-fisted and impatient? I'm willing to bet that there are some very pretty and totally "market-acceptable" toners out there that were blast-white when they went into their slabs.
     
  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm sure there are some indeed. In fact, while not done by a coin doctor, the PCI toning is usually caused by the slab itself (from the label). Many of those coins were slabbed white and then developed pretty toning. These however are usually market acceptable.
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Absolutely! This is a hobby with less than stellar ethics. Anything that becomes fashionable WILL be manufactured, whether that means outright fakes or post hoc alterations. It's inevitable.
     
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  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Old small ANACS slabs and proof coins too. Very reactive slab insert.
     
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  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I believe I said it well upthread on this zombie thread, but I don't pay for color. If you want to, that's YOUR problem. It's a new year, and with every passing one of these, the percentage of doctored colored coins goes up at an ever-increasing rate. It's a license for the unethical to rob the gullible.
     
  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That's fair. Everyone is entitled to collect the way they want.
    I'll still pay a premium for color, but I'm picky when it comes to what kind of color. The blatant AT coins aren't worth much nor are altered slabs with ugly coins.
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I guess we partly remain a creature of the era of our coming of age in this hobby. In my upbringing, color is damage. A particular kind, but still damage.

    IOW, I don't DO trendy. Not ONLY don't I do trendy, I actively and aggressively go COUNTER to trends.
     
  16. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Finally we can agree on something! Cheers and Happy New Year!
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    And yet, here you are, on the Internet... ;)
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Shhhhhhhhhhh
     
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  19. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    For what it's worth, this Jefferson commemorative dollar is from 1993 and has had no problem growing a nice full ROYGBIV rainbow from the OGP:

    1993 P Jefferson Dollar 6.jpg

    1993 P Jefferson Dollar 6 - Packaging 1.jpg
     
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  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I didn't realize this thread is so old. There is some good info here and a lot of ignorance :bucktooth: like a SE cannot tone naturally in a very short time. I shall read through this thread in time and have some fun commenting. ;)
     
  21. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

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