That's really horrible. Clear as day that the toning is only around the gaps in the gasket -- but even if it weren't obviously post-slabbing AT, it's flat-out ugly.
Not poof but its back down to under a page again and some pictures are missing. Unless there were two and I'm looking at the wrong one
I saw this on a PCGS forum thread. There is another thread where someone also found some examples, but that one requires you to register in order to see the content. The way they did it was looking through the seller's feedback for items they bought and then finding those completed listings. The particular example I shared shows up as the first two pictures when Google Image searching https://www.google.com/search?q=edy...ved=0ahUKEwidm8DMrqHRAhWMy4MKHbLmA5cQ_AUICigE
If that is not the clearest-possible proof that modern slabs are not air tight, I don't know what is.
I thought that was pretty universally understood, but I suppose we still get questions about it here. The more interesting question, to my mind: what kind of results can a coin doctor produce with this technique if he isn't ham-fisted and impatient? I'm willing to bet that there are some very pretty and totally "market-acceptable" toners out there that were blast-white when they went into their slabs.
I'm sure there are some indeed. In fact, while not done by a coin doctor, the PCI toning is usually caused by the slab itself (from the label). Many of those coins were slabbed white and then developed pretty toning. These however are usually market acceptable.
Absolutely! This is a hobby with less than stellar ethics. Anything that becomes fashionable WILL be manufactured, whether that means outright fakes or post hoc alterations. It's inevitable.
I believe I said it well upthread on this zombie thread, but I don't pay for color. If you want to, that's YOUR problem. It's a new year, and with every passing one of these, the percentage of doctored colored coins goes up at an ever-increasing rate. It's a license for the unethical to rob the gullible.
That's fair. Everyone is entitled to collect the way they want. I'll still pay a premium for color, but I'm picky when it comes to what kind of color. The blatant AT coins aren't worth much nor are altered slabs with ugly coins.
I guess we partly remain a creature of the era of our coming of age in this hobby. In my upbringing, color is damage. A particular kind, but still damage. IOW, I don't DO trendy. Not ONLY don't I do trendy, I actively and aggressively go COUNTER to trends.
For what it's worth, this Jefferson commemorative dollar is from 1993 and has had no problem growing a nice full ROYGBIV rainbow from the OGP:
I didn't realize this thread is so old. There is some good info here and a lot of ignorance like a SE cannot tone naturally in a very short time. I shall read through this thread in time and have some fun commenting.