Beware of rainbow toning

I gave you a chance to explain what you meant, you responded with a juvenile response that just quoted every previous response that you made to this thread. If you are making posts in jest then you should use emojis to let others know. But the truth is that you meant what you said, and you don't have the intellectual honesty to admit it.

 

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Since you make mountains out of mole hills, I suggest you take a step forward.

 

You're screwed. But if you had a paper clip, you'd be golden!

 

From what I have gathered here, toning is akin to Kopi Luwak. Some love the flavor, but the thought of where it came from turns their stomach.

 

I had to google to find out what that is. Kinda wish I hadn't.

 

So you are saying that toned coins are more prevalent on the bourse floor than in auctions? I call that bluff! And what coin shows do you attend? FUN once per year?

 

I attend mostly ANA shows, March and August. I admit they're not typical shows, but there is no particular shortage or excess of rainbow toned material there in my opinion. Oh yeah, except on the last day, when they disappear from the floor along with the dealers too important to talk to the mere public.

But I'll tell you something - when you see even one or two obviously doctored pieces in high end plastic, the memory clings to you like a disease.

 

if I may chime in, this is a perfect example of the weaknesses inherent in words and language. ( see: Post Modernism).

This entire argument revolves about the term "artificial".

We do not even know what the term means. For example, is baking or frying a coin so it tones quickly via oxidation defined as "artificial"? if so , why?

is placing a coin in a high sulphur envelope and leaving it in the sun for a few months to "bake", considered AT?

if so, what about placing coins in high sulfur coin albums known to cause toning, why is that Not AT? it is a deliberate act to introduce sulphur contamination, right?

One could argue that baking a coin is far less intrusive and artificial than intentionally introducing sulphur to the coins surfaces! After all, heat only speeds up natural oxidation.

So we need to get a much better definition and agreement on what "artificial" means.

 

No one said that you said saturated. I said saturated. If it were easy to at coins to ma there would be so many toned coins on the market that white would go back to getting the premium.

Again your lack of comprehension shows you are reading little of the thread while saying a lot. Please challenge me on the idea you have a history of "sloppy posting".

 

There is a local show that occurs 9 months of the year and which is typically attended by about 20 dealers and two larger shows with at least 50 dealers. I can say that I have never seen a color toned coin displayed at any of these shows. They may have some but they don't display them, so by my observation they're certainly not common around here (SW PA).

Just my worth

 

Now I had to go look. LOL. I've heard of this before. I wonder if it goes well with butt crumpets!

 

I go to shows all the time, local, national. Most local shows have no toned coins, not even toned raw coins. At the national shows, theres a few dealers that specialize in toned stuff. The pickens are pretty slim when looking for toned coins. Or maybe all the toned coins are in florida.

 

Well, you're just going to the wrong shows, then. There's a show that happens with similar frequency in the area I live that typically has in the neighborhood of 30 dealers, and I see tons of toned coins there! There's one dealer in particular who always has at least a few magnificent pieces. Granted, not all those toned coins appeal to me, but they are out there.

OTOH, I recently trolled eBay looking for a nicely toned Walker as a type piece. Out of 20,000+ I looked at, about 6 had any appeal for me. I am picky.

 

My guess is that by "toned," they mean attractively toned and worth a premium. I don't mean to put words in their mouth.

 

Gawd I hope so, because tannish toning is as common as water, outside of California's Central Valley, that is. There are a few special types of toning, other than rainbow that I find interesting, like roll end and double mint set pre-1959 toning. I'm not sure I find them attractive, but the toning pattern is interesting enough that it's worth having some examples.

 

I find toned coins all the time at the small shows here.

I check the binders and usually find plenty of toned jeffies, washingtons, roosies, mercs, etc. Mostly post classic era and coins that were saved in better grades.

 

Is it really debatable if toned coins are present at coin shows? I cannot think of a show I have been to, large or small, where there were any shortage of toned coins. I am not personally a fan of toning, to me, the ideal coin looks like it did the day it was struck, struck perfectly, on a perfect planchet, under perfect conditions. And preserved perfectly. Like a nitrogen atmosphered slab. And no contact with sunlight, or any intense light for that matter.

 

Mogwai coins [emoji23]

 

Gremlins? English translation....?