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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 784389, member: 112"]See the pics I have attached. Hopefully that helps.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes and no Mike. Yes, for a '21 Peace with that good of detail there should be a lot more luster. Look at the area I have circled in turquoise - that look the surfaces have is a dead give-away that the coin has been over-dipped. Now that, coupled with the fact that there does not appear to be 1 speck of toning, explains the lack of luster due to the coin being over-dipped.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, there are numerous hairlines and patches of hairlines on the coin. Yes, I agree that the heavy marks on the cheek could be due to slide marks. But all the hairlines (circled in red)- those aren't slide marks. They could be due to rough handling, or they could be due to somebody trying to clean the coin with a cloth or brush. We really never have any way of knowing exactly what caused the marks. We only know that they are there and thus they are most often attributed to harsh cleaning.</p><p><br /></p><p>That said, the TPG's will designate harsh cleaning whether it is due to actually abrasive cleaning - or - over-dipping. Basically anything that destroys the luster is considered as harsh cleaning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 784389, member: 112"]See the pics I have attached. Hopefully that helps. Yes and no Mike. Yes, for a '21 Peace with that good of detail there should be a lot more luster. Look at the area I have circled in turquoise - that look the surfaces have is a dead give-away that the coin has been over-dipped. Now that, coupled with the fact that there does not appear to be 1 speck of toning, explains the lack of luster due to the coin being over-dipped. However, there are numerous hairlines and patches of hairlines on the coin. Yes, I agree that the heavy marks on the cheek could be due to slide marks. But all the hairlines (circled in red)- those aren't slide marks. They could be due to rough handling, or they could be due to somebody trying to clean the coin with a cloth or brush. We really never have any way of knowing exactly what caused the marks. We only know that they are there and thus they are most often attributed to harsh cleaning. That said, the TPG's will designate harsh cleaning whether it is due to actually abrasive cleaning - or - over-dipping. Basically anything that destroys the luster is considered as harsh cleaning.[/QUOTE]
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