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Message:: [QUOTE="Owle, post: 1471515, member: 22004"]Colonials are a specialized area.  Check out the coinrarties online mentioned to see how specialized and the crazy prices they are getting for them. They must have certain graders who they have do the Fugios.  NGC charges less on attributions and the accepted view is they are better at it but that may vary depending on the sector of the market. In my experience PCGS will give you a number on a coin more often than NGC which is crucial with early material and this exchange even supports that: "I  had a conversation with a real big wig in PCGS that truly is a giant in  numismatics. My question, "why doesn't PCGS teach their graders how to  grade circ. Type accurately?" His response was "a finalizer knows how to  grade circ. Type." I said "as long as graders look at cleaned coins  that are XF and are willing to call them VF, they are on the wrong line  for grading an original VF coin." He said oh, "we do net grade for  cleaning." I said "that is wrong and shouldn't be done because future  buyers, like now, will never learn how to accurately grade." He gave me  no response."<a href="http://rare-coins.com/app.cfm?template=faqs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rare-coins.com/app.cfm?template=faqs" rel="nofollow">http://rare-coins.com/app.cfm?template=faqs</a>[/QUOTE]