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<p>[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 21723, member: 669"]If by "successful collector" you really mean "succesful investor", others have already pointed out the pitfalls, and advantages, of "investing in coins". It differs in kind, not just in degree, from "collecting" coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are collectors who: <ul> <li>participate in the Registry Set activity, seeking to accumulate the highest graded examples of a certain series. They necessarily <i>spend</i> a lot of money.<br /> </li> <li>go through their pocket change looking for coins they don't already have, or coins in better condition than the examples they already have. They naturally <i>spend</i> only a modicum of money.</li> <li>specialize in one or more series of specific coins - Morgan Dollars, British Empire sixpence, Pre-Meiji Japanese silver, foreign coins produced by the U.S. Mint, and on and on and on. Some of them <i>spend</i> a lot of money, others <i>spend</i> very little.</li> <li>specialize in the coinage of on or more specific countries. They too may <i>spend</i> a lot of money, or only a little.</li> <li>collect coinage of a specific metal - gold, silver, copper, bi-metallic, etc. Again, they may <i>spend</i> a lot of money, or only a little.</li> <li>collect currency - paper money. Generally they <i>spend</i> a lot of money.</li> <li>collect exonumia, non-coin items such as Conder Tokens, elongated cents, Casino chips, etc. They too may <i>spend</i> a lot of money, or only a little.</li> <li>refuse to put limits on themselves, and collect anything and everything numismatic that comes their way. Generally they <i>spend</i> a lot of money.</li> <li>collect non-numismatic items, such as porcelain, toy trains, dolls, antique furniture, etc., etc., etc. They also may <i>spend</i> a lot of money, or only a little.</li> </ul><p>I could go on for hours trying to list the multitude of different kinds of "collectors" inhabiting this world, but they all share one characteristic: They <i>spend</i> money <i>buying</i> whatever it is they collect. In that respect, they differ significantly from "investors", who theoretically <i>invest</i> in what they <i>invest in</i>, with the ever-present intention (not always carried out) of selling their acquisitions at a profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Each collector I have described would have different standards to measure their "success" as collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, several months ago I acquired the last coin needed to complete a date set of Japanese ¥100 silver coins. That was a true collecting success, and gave me a great deal of pleasure. But frankly, my hobby record keeping is such that it would take a great deal of effort to determine whether those 10 AU+ coins cost me more, or less, than I could sell them for. It's simply irrelevant in measuring my success.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, like many others on this forum, in addition to <i>collecting</i> coins, I <i>invest</i> in stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities, etc. In that milleau "success" <i>is</i> measured by how profitable it is. (If I <i>don't</i> turn a profit, where will the money come from to <i>buy</i> coins, or any of the other things my Beautiful Bride and I collect (food, shelter, entries in our passports, and so on)? I can assure you that my investment record keeping is very precise, and I can quickly and easily ascertain where I stand on every investment in my portfolio!</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope I haven't bored anyone with this lengthy posting, but I am very passionate on the subject of distinguishing my hobbies - engaged in with no expectation of profit - from my investment activities - engaged in to assure food on the table. Simply stated, "success" is measured very differently.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 21723, member: 669"]If by "successful collector" you really mean "succesful investor", others have already pointed out the pitfalls, and advantages, of "investing in coins". It differs in kind, not just in degree, from "collecting" coins. There are collectors who:[list] [*]participate in the Registry Set activity, seeking to accumulate the highest graded examples of a certain series. They necessarily [I]spend[/I] a lot of money. [*]go through their pocket change looking for coins they don't already have, or coins in better condition than the examples they already have. They naturally [I]spend[/I] only a modicum of money. [*]specialize in one or more series of specific coins - Morgan Dollars, British Empire sixpence, Pre-Meiji Japanese silver, foreign coins produced by the U.S. Mint, and on and on and on. Some of them [I]spend[/I] a lot of money, others [I]spend[/I] very little. [*]specialize in the coinage of on or more specific countries. They too may [I]spend[/I] a lot of money, or only a little. [*]collect coinage of a specific metal - gold, silver, copper, bi-metallic, etc. Again, they may [I]spend[/I] a lot of money, or only a little. [*]collect currency - paper money. Generally they [I]spend[/I] a lot of money. [*]collect exonumia, non-coin items such as Conder Tokens, elongated cents, Casino chips, etc. They too may [I]spend[/I] a lot of money, or only a little. [*]refuse to put limits on themselves, and collect anything and everything numismatic that comes their way. Generally they [I]spend[/I] a lot of money. [*]collect non-numismatic items, such as porcelain, toy trains, dolls, antique furniture, etc., etc., etc. They also may [I]spend[/I] a lot of money, or only a little. [/list] I could go on for hours trying to list the multitude of different kinds of "collectors" inhabiting this world, but they all share one characteristic: They [i]spend[/i] money [i]buying[/i] whatever it is they collect. In that respect, they differ significantly from "investors", who theoretically [i]invest[/i] in what they [I]invest in[/I], with the ever-present intention (not always carried out) of selling their acquisitions at a profit. Each collector I have described would have different standards to measure their "success" as collectors. For example, several months ago I acquired the last coin needed to complete a date set of Japanese ¥100 silver coins. That was a true collecting success, and gave me a great deal of pleasure. But frankly, my hobby record keeping is such that it would take a great deal of effort to determine whether those 10 AU+ coins cost me more, or less, than I could sell them for. It's simply irrelevant in measuring my success. Now, like many others on this forum, in addition to [i]collecting[/i] coins, I [i]invest[/i] in stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities, etc. In that milleau "success" [i]is[/i] measured by how profitable it is. (If I [i]don't[/i] turn a profit, where will the money come from to [i]buy[/i] coins, or any of the other things my Beautiful Bride and I collect (food, shelter, entries in our passports, and so on)? I can assure you that my investment record keeping is very precise, and I can quickly and easily ascertain where I stand on every investment in my portfolio! I hope I haven't bored anyone with this lengthy posting, but I am very passionate on the subject of distinguishing my hobbies - engaged in with no expectation of profit - from my investment activities - engaged in to assure food on the table. Simply stated, "success" is measured very differently.[/QUOTE]
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