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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2382105, member: 24314"]Good point. For a while, ALL excellent, "new" counterfeits go undetected. Nevertheless, AFAIK, since 1975, you can count on 1-2 fingers how many types of U.S. counterfeits (excluding ancients and many foreign coins) have gone undetected for very long. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you are referring to the Micro "O" counterfeits on one of those fingers, I have read on several occasions that they were detected around 1993 (almost a century after they entered commerce - but only twenty years after TPGS's were established) by at least one professional authenticator long before the PCGS study. Thankfully, that study and research by several silver dollar specialists unmasked a larger number of these fakes and die marriages. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>SO, YOU ARE CORRECT. I was trying not to alarm folks or split hairs with the above statement that I stand by. I chose to use the word "virtually." Once a new counterfeit is detected that has been accepted as genuine in the market it becomes a "virtually undetectable counterfeit." That's what is going on now. The TPGS's and specialists ARE detecting many previous "virtually undetectable" fakes - especially in the 1/2 Cent and Large Cent series. As I wrote somewhere (?) before - it is taking months to do this rather than years!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> So, IMO, we are still not quite at the point of "undetectable" counterfeits.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2382105, member: 24314"]Good point. For a while, ALL excellent, "new" counterfeits go undetected. Nevertheless, AFAIK, since 1975, you can count on 1-2 fingers how many types of U.S. counterfeits (excluding ancients and many foreign coins) have gone undetected for very long. If you are referring to the Micro "O" counterfeits on one of those fingers, I have read on several occasions that they were detected around 1993 (almost a century after they entered commerce - but only twenty years after TPGS's were established) by at least one professional authenticator long before the PCGS study. Thankfully, that study and research by several silver dollar specialists unmasked a larger number of these fakes and die marriages. SO, YOU ARE CORRECT. I was trying not to alarm folks or split hairs with the above statement that I stand by. I chose to use the word "virtually." Once a new counterfeit is detected that has been accepted as genuine in the market it becomes a "virtually undetectable counterfeit." That's what is going on now. The TPGS's and specialists ARE detecting many previous "virtually undetectable" fakes - especially in the 1/2 Cent and Large Cent series. As I wrote somewhere (?) before - it is taking months to do this rather than years!:D So, IMO, we are still not quite at the point of "undetectable" counterfeits.[/QUOTE]
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