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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2342608, member: 112"]Insider - </p><p><br /></p><p>For the record, I never said a thing about the photos in the ANA book. At least not in this thread anyway. In other threads I have said many times that people should completely ignore the photos in the ANA book because trying to learn how to grade based on photos is a waste of time and will do you more harm than good. And I have explained why that is so in this thread.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the written descriptions and the text in the ANA book, that will help people learn how to grade. And other than the two specific examples in the 6th edition that I mentioned, and the one mentioned by Kurt in the 7th edition, the text and written descriptions in the ANA book have not changed since 1987.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now Insider, you say that's the problem. And that it is a problem because the TPGs don't grade coins that way, by those standards. Well, you're welcome to your opinion. </p><p><br /></p><p>But my opinion is that the thing that is a problem is the way the TPGs grade coins in today's world. It's a freaking joke ! The problem is that they do not grade based on the ANA standards. The problem is that the TPGs do not grade based on any written or published standards at all. The problem is that the TPGs for years now have been repeatedly and continually loosening whatever standards they are grading by. </p><p><br /></p><p>THAT, is the problem ! And that is what Dave Bowers is saying, and what almost all respected numismatists have been saying for many years. </p><p><br /></p><p>But hey, if you want to disagree, and if you want to believe that the TPGs are doing a good job, well you go right and believe that. I won't. And neither will anybody else that has any sense or even remotely knows how to grade coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2342608, member: 112"]Insider - For the record, I never said a thing about the photos in the ANA book. At least not in this thread anyway. In other threads I have said many times that people should completely ignore the photos in the ANA book because trying to learn how to grade based on photos is a waste of time and will do you more harm than good. And I have explained why that is so in this thread. But the written descriptions and the text in the ANA book, that will help people learn how to grade. And other than the two specific examples in the 6th edition that I mentioned, and the one mentioned by Kurt in the 7th edition, the text and written descriptions in the ANA book have not changed since 1987. Now Insider, you say that's the problem. And that it is a problem because the TPGs don't grade coins that way, by those standards. Well, you're welcome to your opinion. But my opinion is that the thing that is a problem is the way the TPGs grade coins in today's world. It's a freaking joke ! The problem is that they do not grade based on the ANA standards. The problem is that the TPGs do not grade based on any written or published standards at all. The problem is that the TPGs for years now have been repeatedly and continually loosening whatever standards they are grading by. THAT, is the problem ! And that is what Dave Bowers is saying, and what almost all respected numismatists have been saying for many years. But hey, if you want to disagree, and if you want to believe that the TPGs are doing a good job, well you go right and believe that. I won't. And neither will anybody else that has any sense or even remotely knows how to grade coins.[/QUOTE]
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