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Message:: [QUOTE="Richard01, post: 98762, member: 2700"]that is what offends me about this guy enough to contact him. What he is doing is not the simple 'my opinion vs yours'. It is established FACT that these coins are not BU. By stating that they are, he is inflating their percieved value by a huge, huge amount. And as you state, the newbie who shows up with these at a dealer is going to be humiliated, angry, and very likely could determine that coin collecting sucks. For some reason, among all the scammers, this guy offends me more than any in the last two years. It is the first time I've sent a message to a scammer... always figured it was not worth getting involved. This time, it really bothers me. Those coins are somewhere in the F to VF range, basically valued at melt for the most part. People could, if they believe the listing, pay a significant multiple of this. The only one who would fall for it is a rank newbie... a true beginner, and they are the one who would be the most shocked and impacted by such a bold faced lie. Calling a slider an MS63 happens, and is at least arguable as some people miss small friction... but these coins spent decades in the market to get this worn! surprised he did not call them 'poor detail mint errors' and start bidding at $200![/QUOTE]