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<p>[QUOTE="Jeremiahj07, post: 639973, member: 18832"]<b>Any recommendations for the best Ebay sniper software available?</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">I'd go with a web based service rather than software, as using desktop software adds more potemtial problem variables to the mix.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><a href="http://www.hidbid.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.hidbid.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hidbid.com</a> is a service you can try. </font></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">If all humans were completely rational, the best strategy would be to bid on an item the 1st second it is listed because if 2 bids are the same or there isn't enough difference between them to meet the minimum bid increment, the 1st bid in wins. I don't think we'll ever have to deal with this scenario however.</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">"put in once what you are willing to pay and forget it." - Yes makes perfect sense, but you might as well make that 1 bid you place in the last few seconds of an auction, using an automated service, to:</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">avoid attracting or participating in an emotional bidding war (can't always avoid this as it depends on when/what other bidders are doing).</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">easily cancel if you change your mind about an item and no longer want it, you can just cancel your scheduled snipe (probably with up to about 5 minutes left in the auction, depending on what service you're using). If you place a bid on ebay and then want to cancel it, you'll have to file a bid retraction, something ebay and sellers frown upon. A bid retraction can affect you in the future as sellers can restrict bidders with bid retractions from bidding on their items.</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">save yourself a lot of time, if you're a manual sniper. You don't have to be sitting at the computer waiting for an auction to end - set it and forget it.</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">avoid shill bidding (this shouldn't be an issue at all, but unfortunately it is).</font></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">Yes, sniping isn't magic, you still have to have the highest bid to win, but you could save a lot of time by using an automated service. Still, I understand that some people like the excitement of sniping manually.</font></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">The trick with shill bidding is that "a bidder that keeps bidding the min amount to basically stiff out where the other guy is at", bids until he is the high bidder (raising the second highest bidder to their max), waits until near the end of the auction, and then retracts their bid, leaving the other guy as the new high bidder, right near the max that they were willing to pay.</font></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">A lot (probably the majority) of the time, bidders think that they've been 'outsniped' but it was really just ebay's proxy bidding system raising the current high bidder's bid to exceed their own snipe.</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana">Bid increments are something else that many ebay bidders aren't aware of, causing many to ask 'my bid was higher than the final price, why didn't I win!!'.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana">Here are links to some different ebay site bid increments pages:</font></p><p> </p><p><font face="Verdana"><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0000ff">US dollars</span></a></font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.co.uk%2Fhelp%2Fbasics%2Fe_item11.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.co.uk%2Fhelp%2Fbasics%2Fe_item11.html" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0000ff">Great Britain pounds</span></a></font></font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.de%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.de%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0000ff">Euros</span></a></font></font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com.au%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com.au%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0000ff">Australian dollars</span></a></font></font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.ca%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.ca%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #0000ff">Canadian dollars</span></a></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremiahj07, post: 639973, member: 18832"][b]Any recommendations for the best Ebay sniper software available?[/b] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I'd go with a web based service rather than software, as using desktop software adds more potemtial problem variables to the mix.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][URL]http://www.hidbid.com[/URL] is a service you can try. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]If all humans were completely rational, the best strategy would be to bid on an item the 1st second it is listed because if 2 bids are the same or there isn't enough difference between them to meet the minimum bid increment, the 1st bid in wins. I don't think we'll ever have to deal with this scenario however.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]"put in once what you are willing to pay and forget it." - Yes makes perfect sense, but you might as well make that 1 bid you place in the last few seconds of an auction, using an automated service, to:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]avoid attracting or participating in an emotional bidding war (can't always avoid this as it depends on when/what other bidders are doing).[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]easily cancel if you change your mind about an item and no longer want it, you can just cancel your scheduled snipe (probably with up to about 5 minutes left in the auction, depending on what service you're using). If you place a bid on ebay and then want to cancel it, you'll have to file a bid retraction, something ebay and sellers frown upon. A bid retraction can affect you in the future as sellers can restrict bidders with bid retractions from bidding on their items.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]save yourself a lot of time, if you're a manual sniper. You don't have to be sitting at the computer waiting for an auction to end - set it and forget it.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]avoid shill bidding (this shouldn't be an issue at all, but unfortunately it is).[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Yes, sniping isn't magic, you still have to have the highest bid to win, but you could save a lot of time by using an automated service. Still, I understand that some people like the excitement of sniping manually.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]The trick with shill bidding is that "a bidder that keeps bidding the min amount to basically stiff out where the other guy is at", bids until he is the high bidder (raising the second highest bidder to their max), waits until near the end of the auction, and then retracts their bid, leaving the other guy as the new high bidder, right near the max that they were willing to pay.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]A lot (probably the majority) of the time, bidders think that they've been 'outsniped' but it was really just ebay's proxy bidding system raising the current high bidder's bid to exceed their own snipe.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Bid increments are something else that many ebay bidders aren't aware of, causing many to ask 'my bid was higher than the final price, why didn't I win!!'.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Here are links to some different ebay site bid increments pages:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]US dollars[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.co.uk%2Fhelp%2Fbasics%2Fe_item11.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Great Britain pounds[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.de%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Euros[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com.au%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Australian dollars[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.ca%2Fhelp%2Fbuy%2Fbid-increments.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Canadian dollars[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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