Best Ebay Sniper Software

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by MrOrganic, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    Small correction. It isn't free. If you win, you pay - but it isn't very much. Small items are a bit more - anything under $25 won costs $0.25.

    I haven't used other sites, but this site also lets you use multiple ebay ID's. One login and then you choose which ebay ID to use for each snipe.
     
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  3. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Click here for the esnipe fee structure.

    While esnipe.com does have a fee system, a very nominal one, it's one they never police. I bought $5 worth of 500 bid points many, many years ago when I registered my account. Never paid anything since then. They allow you to have a negative balance in bid points for auctions you win and they never harass you to buy more, to balance your account nor restrict your bidding. I have a somewhat large negative bid point balance and unless they ask me for payment I will not buy any bid points. Hence, it's free.
     
  4. Jeremiahj07

    Jeremiahj07 Junior Member

    Any recommendations for the best Ebay sniper software available?



    I'd go with a web based service rather than software, as using desktop software adds more potemtial problem variables to the mix.
    http://www.hidbid.com is a service you can try.




    If all humans were completely rational, the best strategy would be to bid on an item the 1st second it is listed because if 2 bids are the same or there isn't enough difference between them to meet the minimum bid increment, the 1st bid in wins. I don't think we'll ever have to deal with this scenario however.

    "put in once what you are willing to pay and forget it." - Yes makes perfect sense, but you might as well make that 1 bid you place in the last few seconds of an auction, using an automated service, to:

    avoid attracting or participating in an emotional bidding war (can't always avoid this as it depends on when/what other bidders are doing).

    easily cancel if you change your mind about an item and no longer want it, you can just cancel your scheduled snipe (probably with up to about 5 minutes left in the auction, depending on what service you're using). If you place a bid on ebay and then want to cancel it, you'll have to file a bid retraction, something ebay and sellers frown upon. A bid retraction can affect you in the future as sellers can restrict bidders with bid retractions from bidding on their items.

    save yourself a lot of time, if you're a manual sniper. You don't have to be sitting at the computer waiting for an auction to end - set it and forget it.

    avoid shill bidding (this shouldn't be an issue at all, but unfortunately it is).




    Yes, sniping isn't magic, you still have to have the highest bid to win, but you could save a lot of time by using an automated service. Still, I understand that some people like the excitement of sniping manually.





    The trick with shill bidding is that "a bidder that keeps bidding the min amount to basically stiff out where the other guy is at", bids until he is the high bidder (raising the second highest bidder to their max), waits until near the end of the auction, and then retracts their bid, leaving the other guy as the new high bidder, right near the max that they were willing to pay.




    A lot (probably the majority) of the time, bidders think that they've been 'outsniped' but it was really just ebay's proxy bidding system raising the current high bidder's bid to exceed their own snipe.

    Bid increments are something else that many ebay bidders aren't aware of, causing many to ask 'my bid was higher than the final price, why didn't I win!!'.
    Here are links to some different ebay site bid increments pages:

    US dollars
    Great Britain pounds
    Euros
    Australian dollars
    Canadian dollars
     
  5. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    ROTFLMAO

    Hey - you wanna marry my sister - she's available and you sound like an upstanding kind of guy!
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Mark:
    If he bid, and won the lots, then it wasn't shill bidding.
    It may be considered sneaky, but not shill bidding.

    He just wan't it for the lowest price possible.

    Shill bidders bid up the lot, and then stop. And rarely win an auction, they don't intend to win the lot.
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I hope I am misreading your comment but is that a slam? I hope you're jesting since you don't know me but felt like passing a judgement. I will defend this with saying that it is not my fault that esnipe allows this to transpire and to date has never tried to make more money from members or to collect fees owed by their members for the services they are providing. It's not an honesty system they have it's a flaw in their accounting and a lax business approach. Like I said in my first reply to you, if they would ask me to balance my account, then I would pay what I owe.
     
  8. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    Krispy, I'm not looking for a fight.

    Not all people have your interpretation of "free" and prefer to pay for services that they actually use.
     
  9. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I certainly wasn't looking for a fight either but you did leave a snarky comment after I replied to your 'small correction' note with contrary advice. Your comment was left for others to judge me by rather than to evaluate the situation for themselves rather than offering you later more rational comment regarding different interpretations in the first place. It has been my experience that despite esnipe's fee structure, which I initially paid for, that their service is free. Granted this is due in part to their nearly non-existent accounting and/or inability to regulate this aspect of their business. In none of my exchanges have I slighted you. I responded only with advice and explanation of personal experience, clarifying where you cited the difference in my original comment indicating that this is a free service.
     
  10. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    Jeez,

    If you use a cost-based service and benefit from it then you are at least morally obligated to pay for it as long as the service was executed to your satisfaction.

    Sorry. Don't really respect people who don't pay their fair share or who don't carry their load and if you're using esnipe without paying them, then you're in that category.

    Say Good Night Gracie!
     
  11. Jeremiahj07

    Jeremiahj07 Junior Member

    I just saw it as a light-hearted funny joke, until all the posts following it. Whatever the case, not worth writing paragraphs to defend yourself and get excited over.
     
  12. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Right. Pocket Change is the moral authority in this thread so let us all shut up and listen to his funnies while he carelessly showers "humor-filled" judgement at whomever he deems morally culpable. He's not the one being judged and ought to consider his opinions aired via his posts if all he can do is opine about others regarding their differing viewpoints and approaches to the topic of the thread. He challenged my motives and views and cast immoral character upon me thus slandering me before this forum. I met each of his jabs with honest retort and never said a sour thing in return. He can apologize for his errant off-handed remarks and withdraw the insult spoke or say nothing if he cannot address others amicably.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    And which one it was can easily be determined by looking at the time references in the bid history.
     
  14. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    ok guy's you have both had your say this stops now> no more personal attacks back on topic please
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Jeremiahj07,

    Yes - I can see the validity for using software. I am extra cautious when I bid and sometimes I do not find auctions until the last day. schatzy sent me what I think is a valid shill bidding example. When I bid on a coin I am sure I want it by the time I bid. So I don't have those regrets. PS - I lose more than win but that is okay with me.

    Frank,

    I agree and warned him about it. Then again if you looked at everything he was bidding on and all the sellers it would be obvious he was not a shill bidder. Again I agree it might look like it. The real funny thing is - he won alot of what I called junk that he would take to the flea market and make money off the items. He is smart in some way - he can go to a gun show buy a gun and sell it for a profit walking to the next booth. :)
     
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