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<p>[QUOTE="RomaniGypsy, post: 7844863, member: 49234"]Seems really hard to get my hands on them. Earlier this month one of my banks practically begged me to take 43 rolls of halves off their hands because they'd been sitting on them for months. I didn't have enough cash on me plus money in that account to take them all, so I took what I could and planned to return the next morning for the rest. I returned, and someone else had bought all the rest. I have not found a single roll of halves at any bank I've hit since.</p><p><br /></p><p>But it was fun when I got them. I hit three proofs and some that weren't released for circulation. Alas, no silver.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Oh, I never said I oppose work. Everyone enjoys some kind of work, and I've met no counterexample to that in all my years. I'm not sure I agree with you about how it's necessary to do things we don't want to do, to survive. Watch what people do on vacation - they hunt, fish, camp, build, hike in nature, you name it. Our true nature hasn't been destroyed yet.</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with you about that "parasitism" thing, and I'd augment it by saying "if one manages to get others to do that work for them without compensation that reflects the actual value of the work to the person being worked for, it's parasitism".</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Then the problem is the low-paying crappy jobs, not unemployment benefits, which, even with the COVID $300 boost, balance out at a paltry $30,000 per year, meaning that if your job paid more than that, you aren't getting as much on unemployment (to say nothing about the job-related benefits you're no longer getting, if you had any). And what a lot of people don't know is that much of this money you're talking about is basically being created out of thin air. Check out "modern monetary theory" and "fractional reserve banking" to get an idea of what I mean.</p><p><br /></p><p>From a numismatist's perspective, consider this. The government can't possibly know how much physical money is out there. There is no master record of which serial numbers of paper money have been destroyed due to poor condition, and even if there were, it would not account for the money destroyed by people and the money saved indefinitely by people. Though coins have no serial numbers, still there's no way to know what's out there. Do we know how many 1909-S VDBs are out there? Nope. We know how many were minted, and all we can say is, "the number out there today is less than or equal to the mintage".</p><p><br /></p><p>You think the "coin shortage" stuff is BS? I kind of agree, but if we were all to try to cash in our bank accounts and investment accounts and what not, to get cash, we'd find out very quickly just what a cash shortage there really is in this country.</p><p><br /></p><p>Money is an illusion, and therefore anything built upon money as a basis is an illusion. People ought not quibble about the virtues of an illusion; we'd do much better to join together and finally put some clothes on the emperor.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, I don't mind the side discussion. It's my thread, after all... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RomaniGypsy, post: 7844863, member: 49234"]Seems really hard to get my hands on them. Earlier this month one of my banks practically begged me to take 43 rolls of halves off their hands because they'd been sitting on them for months. I didn't have enough cash on me plus money in that account to take them all, so I took what I could and planned to return the next morning for the rest. I returned, and someone else had bought all the rest. I have not found a single roll of halves at any bank I've hit since. But it was fun when I got them. I hit three proofs and some that weren't released for circulation. Alas, no silver. Oh, I never said I oppose work. Everyone enjoys some kind of work, and I've met no counterexample to that in all my years. I'm not sure I agree with you about how it's necessary to do things we don't want to do, to survive. Watch what people do on vacation - they hunt, fish, camp, build, hike in nature, you name it. Our true nature hasn't been destroyed yet. I agree with you about that "parasitism" thing, and I'd augment it by saying "if one manages to get others to do that work for them without compensation that reflects the actual value of the work to the person being worked for, it's parasitism". Then the problem is the low-paying crappy jobs, not unemployment benefits, which, even with the COVID $300 boost, balance out at a paltry $30,000 per year, meaning that if your job paid more than that, you aren't getting as much on unemployment (to say nothing about the job-related benefits you're no longer getting, if you had any). And what a lot of people don't know is that much of this money you're talking about is basically being created out of thin air. Check out "modern monetary theory" and "fractional reserve banking" to get an idea of what I mean. From a numismatist's perspective, consider this. The government can't possibly know how much physical money is out there. There is no master record of which serial numbers of paper money have been destroyed due to poor condition, and even if there were, it would not account for the money destroyed by people and the money saved indefinitely by people. Though coins have no serial numbers, still there's no way to know what's out there. Do we know how many 1909-S VDBs are out there? Nope. We know how many were minted, and all we can say is, "the number out there today is less than or equal to the mintage". You think the "coin shortage" stuff is BS? I kind of agree, but if we were all to try to cash in our bank accounts and investment accounts and what not, to get cash, we'd find out very quickly just what a cash shortage there really is in this country. Money is an illusion, and therefore anything built upon money as a basis is an illusion. People ought not quibble about the virtues of an illusion; we'd do much better to join together and finally put some clothes on the emperor. By the way, I don't mind the side discussion. It's my thread, after all... :D[/QUOTE]
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