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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;lordmarcovan, post: 7117161, member: 10461&quot;]<font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b>Belgium (Liège): silver 2-escalin of Johann Theodor of Bavaria, 1753 (contemporary counterfeit?)</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><b>[ATTACH=full]1274390[/ATTACH] </b></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/liege-2-escalin-km-161-1753-1754-cuid-1205356-duid-1445808" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/liege-2-escalin-km-161-1753-1754-cuid-1205356-duid-1445808" rel="nofollow">KM-161</a>, silver.&nbsp; <a href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33459.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33459.html" rel="nofollow">Numista-33459</a>.&nbsp; Silver, 28.2 mm, 7.44 g.&nbsp; Struck under the authority of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Theodor_of_Bavaria" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Theodor_of_Bavaria" rel="nofollow">Johann Theodor of Bavaria</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-Bishopric_of_Li%C3%A8ge" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-Bishopric_of_Li%C3%A8ge" rel="nofollow">Prince-Bishop of Liège</a>.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">Ex-Jean Elsen et ses Fils Auction #142, <a href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&amp;sid=3340&amp;lot=938" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&amp;sid=3340&amp;lot=938" rel="nofollow">Lot #938</a> (part of), 14 September 2019.</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">I sold this coin on eBay in the summer of 2020, and the buyer returned it, saying it was a counterfeit, with the apparent implication that it was some kind of modern counterfeit.&nbsp; </font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">I didn&#039;t question his assumptions and promptly refunded his money, though I very firmly disagree with the notion that this coin is any kind of <i>modern</i> fake.&nbsp; The coin looks consistent with pictures I&#039;ve seen of others of this somewhat crudely-struck type, as best I can tell, but admittedly I do not know for certain.&nbsp; </font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">It is entirely possible the would-be eBay buyer saw something I do not see.&nbsp; It does seem to be slightly underweight based on the specs given on Numista. </font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">I acquired it as a part of Lot #938 in the Jean Elsen et ses Fils Auction #142, on 14 September 2019, so it came directly from Belgium as part of a large lot of older coins and tokens of Liège.&nbsp; If it is in fact counterfeit, I am much more likely to believe it could be a <i>contemporary</i> counterfeit from the 1700s.&nbsp; But I&#039;m not sure I buy that theory, either.&nbsp; Really, I don&#039;t know. The coin looks fine to me.&nbsp; But I could be wrong. </font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274390[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274391[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274392[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274393[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274394[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274395[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274396[/ATTACH]</font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Georgia"><font size="5">[ATTACH=full]1274397[/ATTACH] </font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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