Beginner's Luck?

That doubling on states is not flat and shelf like. It may be subtle but it is in full definition and adds to the devices. It does not flatten the devices. I am telling you that you are wrong the examples you got/have are MD. They are not Doubled Dies.

 

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The doubling on PCGS is not the same as what you are showing. Please stop. The doubling on coin facts show a slight and subtle extra thickness. anything that you see that looks like your coin is reflection the real doubling on the coin is the split serifs on the stars just below states.

 

A couple of things:

1. Doubled die coins can be minted with late stage dies with significant deterioration.
2. They can also display machine damage.

The designations given to attribute a coin do not transfer across years or mints. They are specific. If a designation seems to apply, it’s a good idea to include it for members to refer too.

Your specimens display machine damage. I don’t see anything indicating true doubling.
It’s also a good idea to suggest the class of doubling you think you might see. This also helps members to dial in.

Also, PCGS doesn’t control what’s submitted or the minting process. Machine damage present on a coin is photographed just the same as one without it. It maybe present as a result but not the focus intended. Look for the intended details and not the distractions that might be present.

 

@No_Ragrets Just a footnote to this conversation. Over the years, many coins were once called errors or varieties and have since been debunked. This includes listings in the Cherry Pickers Guide. Frank Spadone wrote a book back in the 60's that listed many coins he called errors which were really not. But many people nonetheless put these coins in 2X2's and saved them forever only to find out, somewhere along the way, the mistakes that were made. Done it myself when I first started. I am also with @paddyman98 on his conclusion. TPG's are not God's, and they make mistakes, probably more often than they will admit.

 

I sincerely appreciate everyone's help in this, and apologize if I got under anyone's skin with my persistent questions. I'm chalking these coins up as a learning experience to which you have all helped me understand a little bit better. It's in my nature to seek out more information and I think I've learned a bit more from this discussion. Thank you all again and I'll see you in the next thread!

 

Yep, I didn't click more images so was only seeing three examples of fs-801. Of the three, I am only seeing the machine doubling you picture on one. Even viewing the other images I am only seeing the clear machine doubling on the one you pictured here. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just not seeing it. I'll leave it to those more into these.

 

I hear you. And the masses here have been very helpful in expanding my limited knowledge on these things. I'll take my newfound knowledge and (hopefully) remember it when I run into my next hopeful varieties.