Beginner collector! Denarii

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by RedStallions, Apr 8, 2021 at 5:53 PM.

  1. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    Hi everyone,
    I am new into coin collecting and new to the forum, so sorry in advance if I did anything wrong here. I bought these two coins from Vcoins and I just wanted to know what you guys think of them on terms of legitimacy and quality. I also just want to learn some tips and recommendations you guys have when it comes to collecting as well, specifically Roman ancients.
    I hope the images are fine enough!
    Here are the coins:

    GETA CAESAR AR silver denarius. Struck circa 202-208 AD. P SEPTIMIVS GETA CAES, bare headed bust, draped & cuirassed, right. Reverse - PROVID DEORVM, Providentia standing left, holding wand and scepter, globe at feet. RIC IV.I 51. RSC 170. 18.5mm, 2.9g
    Geta Bust.jpg Geta Reverse.jpg

    CARACALLA AR silver denarius. Rome, AD 210-213. ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT, laureate head right. Reverse - PROVIDENTIAE DEORVM, Providentia standing left, holding wand over globe and sceptre. RIC 227. 18.5mm, 3.3g.
    Caracalla Bust.jpg Caracalla reverse.jpg

    I got them from Incitatus Coins and I briefly browsed some old forum posts saying how legitimate he is, so I absolutely have no worries on that end but its cool to get some opinions. Steve was great to order from and I definitely recommend.
     
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  3. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    They both look really nice to me. And Incitatus is a very reliable dealer
     
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I agree with Donna. Great looking coins and a reliable seller.
    Congrats :)
     
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  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Great start! Geta looks great. Sad story fir the little guy getting murdered by big bro Caracalla.

    caracalla got what was coming, by getting murdered in turn while on the side of the road taking a leak. Karma
     
  6. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Firstly
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    You've come to the right place to share and view Severan coinage. We have some dedicated collectors on here.
    Here's my kiddo Geta before the whole being murdered by his own brother in his mom's arms thing:
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have a VERY nice denarius for Caracalla, a gift during Secret Saturn 2018.
    Caracalla RIC 312d (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).jpeg

    I have yet to get a good silver denarius of the lil bro, but I have this billon limes variant.
    Geta BI Limes Denarius RIC 18b.JPG

    For good measure, one of the dad too:
    Septimius Severus AR Denarius RIC 52.JPG
     
  8. svessien

    svessien Senior Member Supporter

    Congrats with the new old coins and a new fun hobby!

    I think it’s a good idea to start with the first half of the 3rd century with the denarius collection, because many of the coins from that era can be had fairly cheap. So if you make some kind of mistake, it’s not THAT bad. The coins you’ve bought now look fine, though, so no worries. Nice Caracalla!
    As for collecting tips and strategies, you will hear a lot of different opinions. Some are minimalists, and prefer a small collection of high end coins. Others prefer a large variety of coins, and are ok with lowering the standard on quality a little. It’s probably a good idea to consider what you want your collection to look like in 5, 10, 15 years. Do you have any specific goals?
     
  9. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    Thanks for the compliment on the Caracalla! I dont have many goals on the collection, just like you said, a hobby since I'm in love with Roman history, I'm just about to graduate from my undergrad, so I thought to spend a little money on the side of my part time job on a new hobby.
    I think my short term goal would be the Severan line for the while. What do you think?
     
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  10. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    Really cool Septimus Severus coin! Thats definitely my next coin to get.
     
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  11. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    I like the quality of that young Geta coin you have, thanks for the welcome as well!
     
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Severans are an easy like to collect. They are generally not too expensive and are readily available. My 7 Sev only cost a little over $30!
    The females of the line are a bit expensiver, but I think you’ll have great fun with the Severans.

    if you’re interested in some big bronzes, check out provincials of the Severans. They’re often cheaper and have incredible reverses!
     
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  13. svessien

    svessien Senior Member Supporter

    I think that sounds like a good plan. Severus Alexander and Elagabalus are in the same price bracket, and Gordian III, Phillip I&II, and many of the later emperors are very availible too.

    One of my collecting goals is one silver coin from each emperor. I use the list from britannica.com:
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-Roman-emperors-2043294
     
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  14. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    Yup! Im sure the Severans would be really fun to collect. I have two coins out there in mind one of which is getting these two boys their father, and the other is a dual portrait of Geta and Caracalla I saw while browsing Vcoins - it was more on the expensive side of things so it might be the crown of the collection.
     
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  15. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Those confronted bust coins are a bit expensive for my taste. I'll stick with bottom feeder ones instead, like Caracalla and Domna:
    Caracalla & Domna (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
     
  16. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    Pretty cool, is this one of the provincial ones you spoke about? And do you have more of Julia Domna?
     
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  17. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    There are lots of silver coins available of Septimius Severus's wife Julia Domna at reasonable prices. Here are some I own -- young, middle-aged, and old. (The reverses of the first two show, respectively, Domna as Isis nursing the infant Horus, and as Cybele with a lion at her feet.)

    New Julia Domna - Isis COMBINED.jpg

    Julia Domna - Mater Devm - Cybele - jpg version.jpg

    Julia Domna - Hilaritas (800x410).jpg
     
  18. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    These are very nice coins! The Domna as Isis would have to be my favourite of the three
     
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  19. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    My best Severan provincial is this one, of Septimius Severus. with a nice temple reverse.
    Septimius Severus Moushmov 2801.JPG

    My only singular Julia Domna is this rather roached example:
    Julia Domna (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
    She's too expensive for me!
     
  20. RedStallions

    RedStallions Member

    These are nice! Especially the Severus, I like the natural aging and coins with the temples.
    Also you and me both! Her coins are pricey.
     
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  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    If you find Domna too pricey, you could look into a limes denarius. They're not silver (or at least not fine silver), but they were made from the same dies. Limes tend to be a LOT cheaper than an equivalent silver denarius.

    This limes of 7Sev is worth like $10; the equivalent silver version is worth more like $50+
    Septimius Severus RIC 233 Limes Denarius.JPG
     
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