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Message:: [QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1661661, member: 37839"]Doug, once again, we agree.  There are and were always good and bad dealers.  I was merely injecting some humor into the debate--obviously, the opportunities for having positive and negative relationships with dealers is unchanged--the way it is done is differently.  Of course one has to know their coins if they're going to buy intelligently.  I just seem to trust the TPGs more than you do--I feel their error rates are lower than the "bad old deals," and that they help to set a "arms length" transaction price line with slab grading.  To reiterate what I have said before, that doesn't mean for one second that I would buy a coin I didn't like by "eye appeal" with the grading scale and slabbing, any more than I would not get one in the past.  That, I maintain, is unchanged.  I do feel that you condemn "plastic" collectors too much--TPGs do provide a security and reassurance that is invaluable to the hobby.[/QUOTE]