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<p>[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 550375, member: 16510"]<b>I'm not sure I follow you but,,,</b></p><p><br /></p><p><i>The supply is there whether buy yearly from the mint, the secondary market, or a combination of the two. </i></p><p> </p><p>I know many, many part time and full time coin dealers and none of them do only what you suggest. The market for mint and proof set singles is not that great to say the least and coins from these sets are often ruined.</p><p>The way the most successful coin dealers I know do this:</p><p> </p><p>1. They have a lot of different items including all aspects of collectible coins, such as, mint and proof sets, mint state and circ. examples of all series, graded and raw coins, key in many grades from each series, rolls, paper, bullion. With all this variety if one thing is not selling they have many more things to offer.</p><p> </p><p>2. They network a lot - they get to know people, make contacts, become an outlet for items from other dealers even before they buy them. Reputation is eveything in this hobby - a handshake is all it takes to insure complete trust from a <b>good</b> coin dealer</p><p> </p><p>3. They make their money buying coins. Time and time again I've heard it said that "we make our money buying not selling coins". For a long time I was confused about this because it does not seem to make any sense but the knowlegable, profitable coin dealers always say the same thing. We make our money buying not selling. This is especially true in a retail shop as coins walk in to you - you don't have to pay retail or even wholesale just enough to satisfy the customer and secure the coins for future sale. After all the may sit there three years before they are sold so you must insure a greater margin.</p><p> </p><p>4. When doing appraisals be fair. Sometimes you have to pay more to get "everything" that is in that collection. You also need to be more generous especially if you think that customer may "shop it around" before they decide on you to sell it to.</p><p> </p><p>5. Most all dealers do shows regularly where they have an additional outlet to buy and sell, meet new customers and cater to existing ones.</p><p> </p><p>6. They all work very hard and long hours to put up coins, label and price them while tracking inventory and their expectations are not so great as to be unreasonable - they want to make "overall" about 10 to 15% and they keep it consistent. In other words they are more willing to move many items at less profit than a few items at a greater profit.</p><p> </p><p>7. Good dealers buy very little from the mint other than some bullion and current year sets. They don't need to most of that kind of stuff will always be available cheaper in a couple of years, often much cheaper.</p><p> </p><p>8. This is so often overlooked as if it should be a given but good dealers must learn to grade and know the diagnostics of key date coins. Instantly a good dealer will know small dates, true 09-s mint mark styles, clear "S"'s, 22 no "D"'s, doubled dies, over mint marks, Morgan & Peace Vams, over-dates, condition rarities, whether a coins been cleaned or not and the most counterfeited coins. If you do not know all this and much more within 1 second of gazing at a given coin your already behind the curve. You also need to have looked at many hundred of thousands of coins over and over again to be proficient.</p><p> </p><p>There is no other way that I know how other than that mentioned above that any coin dealer will need to know before they ever start to become a "coin Dealer".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 550375, member: 16510"][b]I'm not sure I follow you but,,,[/b] [I]The supply is there whether buy yearly from the mint, the secondary market, or a combination of the two. [/I] I know many, many part time and full time coin dealers and none of them do only what you suggest. The market for mint and proof set singles is not that great to say the least and coins from these sets are often ruined. The way the most successful coin dealers I know do this: 1. They have a lot of different items including all aspects of collectible coins, such as, mint and proof sets, mint state and circ. examples of all series, graded and raw coins, key in many grades from each series, rolls, paper, bullion. With all this variety if one thing is not selling they have many more things to offer. 2. They network a lot - they get to know people, make contacts, become an outlet for items from other dealers even before they buy them. Reputation is eveything in this hobby - a handshake is all it takes to insure complete trust from a [B]good[/B] coin dealer 3. They make their money buying coins. Time and time again I've heard it said that "we make our money buying not selling coins". For a long time I was confused about this because it does not seem to make any sense but the knowlegable, profitable coin dealers always say the same thing. We make our money buying not selling. This is especially true in a retail shop as coins walk in to you - you don't have to pay retail or even wholesale just enough to satisfy the customer and secure the coins for future sale. After all the may sit there three years before they are sold so you must insure a greater margin. 4. When doing appraisals be fair. Sometimes you have to pay more to get "everything" that is in that collection. You also need to be more generous especially if you think that customer may "shop it around" before they decide on you to sell it to. 5. Most all dealers do shows regularly where they have an additional outlet to buy and sell, meet new customers and cater to existing ones. 6. They all work very hard and long hours to put up coins, label and price them while tracking inventory and their expectations are not so great as to be unreasonable - they want to make "overall" about 10 to 15% and they keep it consistent. In other words they are more willing to move many items at less profit than a few items at a greater profit. 7. Good dealers buy very little from the mint other than some bullion and current year sets. They don't need to most of that kind of stuff will always be available cheaper in a couple of years, often much cheaper. 8. This is so often overlooked as if it should be a given but good dealers must learn to grade and know the diagnostics of key date coins. Instantly a good dealer will know small dates, true 09-s mint mark styles, clear "S"'s, 22 no "D"'s, doubled dies, over mint marks, Morgan & Peace Vams, over-dates, condition rarities, whether a coins been cleaned or not and the most counterfeited coins. If you do not know all this and much more within 1 second of gazing at a given coin your already behind the curve. You also need to have looked at many hundred of thousands of coins over and over again to be proficient. There is no other way that I know how other than that mentioned above that any coin dealer will need to know before they ever start to become a "coin Dealer".[/QUOTE]
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