Beautiful 1967 SMS / DD Roosevelt dime ???

Just out of curiosity, @Rick Stachowski that really looks like what I have seen called MD by many here. How is that "doubling" distinguished from MD?

 

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Class IV doubling .
http://www.doubleddie.com/203906.html

 

The U in trust looks good. But im wrong most of the time. I gave DD's. Up. Got a 95 cent dd

 

We know you jewels. Sometimes giving u an honest reply. Sets u off.

 

You need to explain in your words. Kentucky and I just dont get it

 

Actually the link was very helpful

 

Yeah but why only the ear on the 84 cent

 

Wow ... Lord knows I can't stand it when people attempt to throw slick insults and try talk around things you point out to them and then they say they're giving you advice . Lol . Just like U812 did when he stated I can't see the picture although I clearly zoomed in for everyone to see the bold raised doubling ... And then there's someone out of nowhere starts yelling on your post and asking you to back off for asking questions that don't even pretain to them only to have people like yourself actually try to justify their rudeness . Well hey anyway thanks for your advice . I don't how I will ever live without your dripping sarcasm but I will have to try jay420 . Oh and please PM anyone you like if that's how you choose to live your life thats fine ... I won't PM your post and probably won't even read them . As I have better things to do with my life. But still do be sure and say hello to whoever you PM for me in advance because trust me when I say I don't mind . LOL . A quite peice of mind is always appreciated .

 

Now moving along from negativity . Thanks Rick . I'm still learning as I'm sure we all are . And which is why I guess I don't see the MD PD SD OR DDD or which everyone it supposed to be since it's been called a little of everything ... but on the doubled ear and doubled nose those raised areas show clean doubling not like the ones in the sites that everyone refers to as a reference . The ear and nose simply do not have any similarities to the ones there which is what is confusing me I guess. And so to be on the safe side I'm going to just have a coin dealer I know here to have a close look at those two specific things and see what they think .

 

Thank you very much, jay4202472000. read my above post. u812?

 

Wow ... u812? What's with you man . And why are you making threats to me when I don't even know you . Infact Are there no rules in coin talk nowfor name calling and threats because that was really uncalled for dude ???? And if I'm correct you came to my post telling me to back off when I wasn't even talking to you which is even more crazy . But I think you really need to go and see someone and fast . Because It sounds like you need help . But in the mean time please . No more threats ok . You don't know me and I'm sure you don't want to . So just please move on .

 

You're too much... and, apparently, failed to see the opportunity to show off that super special "best" imaging system you were trying to hawk a while back. So much for the "great business man with great vision", huh?

Jay was, again, only trying to help you, Jewels, but again you throw a tantrum over nothing simply because YOU didn't understand what was being said. If you truly care about your hobby as much as you claim, please, take the advice repeatedly given and make an honest effort to educate yourself. Please...

"Back off" as in showing a larger area and/or the entire coin; this isn't rocket science, and everyone seems to have understood, yet here you are whining away and playing the poor little victim over something you started? You're just too much!

 

OMGGGGGGGGGGG !!!! So i started all this by asking questions about my own coin on my on post and now I'm playing the victim here ???? And " back off " was just a way of asking me to show him a larger area of the coin ????And I guess that the threats he made was just a way of him asking me to dinner and a movie too right . Smh .... At first I thought you were trying to be serious for a change booksb4coins but how can you expect me to take you serious when what you are saying is absolutely crazy !!!! And of course I always take people advice even if I don't always agree but obviously alot of other people don't like to take there own advice and enjoy playing games and feeding off negativity . But I don't .

 

I think that from here on out it will just be much safer if I just agree with what anyone tells me anything about a coin because if i disagree with anyone in cointalk it seems like that automatically make you a bad person . Smh

 

One person is on time out, lets not have more. Arguments must be fact based and not emotional. Do not feel you can respond in like if bad things are said to you, let us know, do not take it into your own as a responsibility, you may be sucked into the same infractions. No one is above the rules except the admin as they make them. No one owns a thread , nor should feel an exclusivity of it. If a person asks a question ( usually the purpose of starting a thread or comment), anyone can answer you, either answer it or ignore it completely, as you do not have to answer either, although it is civil. Jim

 

In fact

 

Maybe this will help out .

A Class IV doubled die is produced when the centers of the hub and die are not in alignment during one of the hubbings. Either the hub or the die will be "off-center" or "offset" with respect to the other. That is why the class received the name "Offset Hub Doubling."

For those familiar with error coins, the setup is very much like that which produces the error coin known as a "misaligned obverse die" error. Here, when the dies are set up in the coining press their centers are not directly opposite each other as they should be. The obverse die is slightly offset. When the planchet comes in and rests on the reverse die (older press setup) and is then struck by the obverse die, the reverse will be normal but the obverse will be slightly off center.

As a result of the off-centered alignment between the hub and the die for one of the hubbings, overlapping images or doubling will occur. All of the doubling will be spread in the same direction on the die and thus on all of the coins struck by that die.

To illustrate the effect we took the illustration of the obverse of a 1967 Lincoln cent (Figure 1) and made a transparency of it. We took the transparency and placed it over Figure 1 so that they were perfectly aligned. We then moved the transparency slightly to the north to create the image seen in Figure 2. It is a perfect example of the type of doubling seen on a Class IV doubled die.

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Figure 1 - This is the illustration of a 1967 Lincoln cent. It represents what would be seen on a die after the first hubbing.

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Figure 2 - This is the doubling that resulted when we made a transparency of Figure 1. We then placed it over Figure 1 and shifted it slightly to the north. The result was Class IV type doubling all spread in the same direction. This is exactly how Class IV doubled dies were produced.

 

"Oh my god god god god god god god god god god god"? Now, does this really make sense? Drama queen much?

Okay, and now for our 377th lesson on the obvious: the "back off" comment, while certainly an odd and ill-thought-out approach, when taken in CONTEXT, has absolutely nothing to do with the later exceptionally uncouth threat, yet is exactly what you imply because, as always, you're desperate to portray yourself as the victim instead of engaging in much needed and warranted self-reflection.

Short pulling out the crayons and drawing a purty picture, I'm unsure of a way to make this anymore clear: I expect NOTHING from you, ever, even if I do still hold hope that you'll come around and become a reasonable and contributing member of this forum. This, however, will not happen as long as you continue to go off the deep end every time someone says something you don't understand and/or agree with.

If you want "serious", please; try being serious for a change. You may just be pleasantly surprised by how fast things can turn around, and how much you can learn by opening your mind. You've shared two very nice accepted varieties - the ATB 25C DDR and 2011 1C DDO - so you do have a very nice and decent start, but do yourself no favors by insisting on chasing rainbows. Again, please give it some thought, and I make this request with absolute sincerity.

 

Jewels,

The personal issues not withstanding I have to thank you for starting this thread. As an error searcher like yourself I have been fooled by machine doubling. By carefully reading this forum everyday I have learned a lot but the references offered in this thread have given me a much clearer understanding of the different types of doubling.