Bean Wars - CAC

Some don't like little stickers adorning their slabs, but I do like the opinion of JA and those little green beans.
I just sent a small group of 10 coin to CAC last week. I threw a couple it that I knew were marginal and wasn't too upset when the results came in. Six of ten passed with one being a real surprise.

This coin was originally NGC MS65BN. Later I cracked it out and sent it to PCGS where it came back MS64BN. The confusing part of this is CAC gave the NCG MS65BN coin a green bean, yet the same coin in a PCGS MS64BN slab didn't pass the bean test.

I understand this is a small sampling, but ............

Bean at MS65




No Bean at MS64

 

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cac stickers suck. why waste money on them ? soon they'll be a sticker after the cac sticker when will it end ? waste of money period.

 

Bob, that's a beautiful coin regardless of JA's blessing (or not). The lack of a bean at one grade lower is very curious indeed. Guess this goes to show the "almighty" JA isn't as infallible as everyone likes to think he is.

Again though, take away message -- who cares what JA says, that's a sexy coin!

 

Great looking coin. Insanity in terms of the CAC beans.

 

peel it off the old slab n smack 'er on the new one. You're welcome

 

Somebody's making money off the CAC stickers...and it ain't the people paying for the CAC stickers...

 

Shows the true value of a subjective opinion. I'm glad I collect coins and not slabs or stickers. It makes hobby life a heck of a lot easier, with nothing to trivialize it, by glorifying it or undermining it with that subjective opinion. I guess we can safely say, that double-dipping, triple-dipping or quadruple-dipping in subjective opinions, can bring you down a grade and sticker.

 

I have a feeling this JA you speak of likes to play games and can be very vindictive. First he gives his blessing, then he takes it away. He's playing a higher power in the coin realm. Who knows, maybe he has his own personal agenda, preference, bias when it comes to PCGS. This instance sure looks like a black eye for the sticker king.

 

Glad to hear it. Results like these undermine many of your topic related posts on the forum. Hope this is just an isolated incident, or else the whole house of cards might tumble one day.

 

I'm not sure about being vindictive. John Albanese started both PCGS, NGC and now CAC.

 

Hence the wink at the end of my sentence.

 

I'm a little slow.

 

Isn't that the main reason why we even have CAC? (joke )

 

Now send that Lincoln to ANACS for a JA&co independent opinion ;-)

 

That coin is done traveling for awhile.

 

I never fully trust a coin surface, until ICG gets a look at it. I'm telling you, the new standard in graded coins will be a photo of a raw coin, next to four cracked open slabs and two peeled off holograms, then and only then it will be deemed safe to purchase at 600% mark up, by some. The coin will get an average grade of all the subjective opinions it encountered. The buyer gets a coin history in plastic and stickers.

 

Beautiful cent . Does John A. do the actual approvals . In your case whoever regraded it got it wrong and CAC definitely got it wrong . But they are human and mistakes will be made . Very interesting though . I'd send CAC a letter asking why it stickered in a 65 slab but not a 64 .

 

That's sort of like picking at a scab, isn't it? What if you get banned from future submissions as a result? I hope questioning CAC directly does not result in the same defensive response we get when we question CAC customers on the forum.

 

Do you think it would do any good, resubmitting the coin, along with photos of the coin in the NGC holder with sticker and in the PCGS holder, showing it is indeed the same coin, and if it still doesn't receive a sticker, at least an explanation of why it did not?