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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2446364, member: 24544"]I will add in my two cents on the slabbing of ancient coins and it's 'inevitability', but from the perspective of my previous collecting interest in US large cents. US large cents is one of (the only?) areas of US numismatics where slabbing does not dominate the market. You can still go to large coins shows and see a number of the copper dealers offering all their coins unslabbed, in all price ranges and grades from $50 to >$50,000. Further, the norm for serious collectors of these coins is to crack them out. Now, I understand there are a couple large copper dealers who slab most of their stock, and certainly all the coins in a major collection get slabbed for auction, but that is marketing only. As an aside, I have heard stories of Dan Holmes walking around with his 1795 reeded edge large cent in his pocket, a coin that sold for $1,200,000 in 2009, and handing it out at EAC conventions for other collectors to examine.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is possible in large part because there is a very dedicated group of people collecting these coins and passing on the traditions and culture of collecting them. They have their own grading system and they keep their own conditional census. Basically, large cents has an amateur community of experts who maintain grading standards and census reports, they don't need TPGs to do that for them. If we want to keep ancient coins unslabbed, it will require something similar, an organized effort to maintain grading standards and culture. An effort to maintain amateur numismatic collecting and study, not just investing in coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, I believe both early American copper and ancients have a distinct advantage in pushing back on slabbing, they are generally very unique coins and are not fungible items even when in the same 'grade'. One huge benefit to slabbing coins like Morgan dollars is you can buy a sight unseen MS64 and generally know the quality of the coin you will receive. This is a huge benefit to dealers who are trading inventory and have commoditized the market, but ancient coins are not fungible like that. They are generally unique, hand made objects with huge variation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2446364, member: 24544"]I will add in my two cents on the slabbing of ancient coins and it's 'inevitability', but from the perspective of my previous collecting interest in US large cents. US large cents is one of (the only?) areas of US numismatics where slabbing does not dominate the market. You can still go to large coins shows and see a number of the copper dealers offering all their coins unslabbed, in all price ranges and grades from $50 to >$50,000. Further, the norm for serious collectors of these coins is to crack them out. Now, I understand there are a couple large copper dealers who slab most of their stock, and certainly all the coins in a major collection get slabbed for auction, but that is marketing only. As an aside, I have heard stories of Dan Holmes walking around with his 1795 reeded edge large cent in his pocket, a coin that sold for $1,200,000 in 2009, and handing it out at EAC conventions for other collectors to examine. This is possible in large part because there is a very dedicated group of people collecting these coins and passing on the traditions and culture of collecting them. They have their own grading system and they keep their own conditional census. Basically, large cents has an amateur community of experts who maintain grading standards and census reports, they don't need TPGs to do that for them. If we want to keep ancient coins unslabbed, it will require something similar, an organized effort to maintain grading standards and culture. An effort to maintain amateur numismatic collecting and study, not just investing in coins. Lastly, I believe both early American copper and ancients have a distinct advantage in pushing back on slabbing, they are generally very unique coins and are not fungible items even when in the same 'grade'. One huge benefit to slabbing coins like Morgan dollars is you can buy a sight unseen MS64 and generally know the quality of the coin you will receive. This is a huge benefit to dealers who are trading inventory and have commoditized the market, but ancient coins are not fungible like that. They are generally unique, hand made objects with huge variation.[/QUOTE]
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